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12-20-2007, 09:10 AM   #1
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the moment we begin to fight something, we have lost

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12-20-2007, 01:04 PM   #2
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And a very helpful one. Thank you !
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12-20-2007, 02:22 PM   #3
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I'm a newbie to all this, so I am a bit hesitant to write something...

I feel like if it's against another person, you are right.
Or if I don't listen to my body but fight it, you are right too.

But if I fight against my own stupidity, arrogance, laziness, inaction, bad temper, etc.
then sometimes I win, even if I lose. if that makes any sense...
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12-21-2007, 04:35 AM   #4
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You are both right. Why ?
Tubeseeker is right. If you fight as you are already lost.
He implies that you fight because you dislike something, cannot accept something. And this is a loss, because everything happens as God want's it or allows it to happen.
The one who knows this, does not act with passion, under the influence of personal opinion or liking, but accordingly to the divine will.

Montauk is right, we cannot be insensitive, and apathic, if "bad" things are happening. But if we are not realized souls, saints, we can never know if we judge right. So we migh be mistaken, and enburden our karma.

The middle ground is, maybe. I am not sure what the divine will is in this particular case, but thankfully it was proclaimed several times during history. We have intellects, discrimination, heart consciusness, empathy, so we can figure it out most of the time, what is right and what is wrong.
So we interpret. This must be done always with a clear mind, and pure heart. See where temptation, egoism, selfishness tries to manifest themselves in our actions, and avoid them.

This is confuse only in theory. Most of the time it is very clar what the right is, but it is just too damn hard to act that way.
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12-21-2007, 09:07 AM   #5
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But if I fight against my own stupidity, arrogance, laziness, inaction, bad temper, etc.
then sometimes I win, even if I lose. if that makes any sense...
I can understand ths viewpoint, as at times I am still there
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01-04-2008, 04:19 PM   #6
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Tubeseeker I think you are rigth, if we start fighting we are lost.
But who says that if something in the world is not in the rigth place, that we have to figth.
May be we should simply start doing our job to add some more beauty to the creation.
That means to take all the so called problems to our soul intead of takeing it to the heart if we don´t wnt to die from a heart attack.

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01-08-2008, 12:59 PM   #7
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Indeed a nice thought
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Then don't fight it, give praise and thanks and then try blessing it (whatever it may be).
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01-14-2008, 01:51 AM   #9
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I like that phrase!!
It reminds me of "Resistance is futile" - a phrase I learned from one of my teacher's and one that I "try" to remember as much as possible.

Thanks for sharing!
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