Breathing, asthma and Neti nasal cleaning issues!

Hello everyone,

I have a few yoga related questions for you and that?s the first time I post a thread. Thank to the help that may come!!!

The subject is mostly about breathing. To help you to understand the breathing problems that I suffer which will be describe later, I will give you an enumeration of the elements I feel could be important for you to know. Notice that those elements could be related together or not and they may not all be pertinent. I hope people with experience will help me to clarify this.

First I am 34 years old and I suffer effort related asthma since I am young. We discovered that maybe at 5 or 6 years old. That mean when I do cardio exercises, I don?t feel my breathing capacity increasing at all. This was always the case throughout my life. At about 1 year old, I had a very big peanut butter allergic reaction. According to my parents, my face went bigger and my lips much more. Hopefully it got back to normal after medical care, but it was a bit long before we could reach the doctor place ? I may have stayed a long time in this crisis state.

I suffer my biggest asthma crisis at 12, did some sporadic yoga for the last 9 years, but more regularly for the last six month. I have not the best neither the worst diet, but slowly tend to a vegetarian one. Last year a specialist told me that my nasal canals were very narrow, but should breath by the mouth instead if I needed to ? Pranayama is very hard for me to do, especially alternate nostril breathing. Before using methylene blue as an antiseptic when my throat start to itch, I had at least 3 big colds a year with fever, now it?s more like only one, and no fever. I often feel tiredness. The symptoms always first start in my eye, it?s like a part of me is ready to sleep, but not the rest. This can happen at any time during the day. My last complete blood test was nearly perfect.

From two events, I will try to put a scale on my breathing capacity in order to have a good feeling of the benefit I get from different ?? breathing events ?? in my life. The first one will be the biggest asthma crisis I suffered at the age of 12. It was a December 24 and after sleeping the night on the carpet floor I woke up in crisis. I felt that air could get into my lungs just about a breath out of 5 and it was easier if I was yawning to do so. This is the bottom of the scale. Which means I can still live, but not much more? The other event is something else. It was 5 years ago when I woke up at 5 AM, still a bit tired, but not enough to sleep again. I decided to do a classic 90 minutes yoga class. In the final relaxation, I can?t tell if I was sleeping or something else, but when I came back to a conscientious state, I was at the end of a deep inhalation and naturally followed a deep exhalation. [COLOR=black]This was by a way the deepest, natural, effortless, satisfying breath I ever [/COLOR]experienced!!!

Is that the natural way my body should breathe all the time or just a freak peak out of reach for everyone??? Is anybody always breathing like this in the world??? As breathing is the most important thing to do, I think it well worth the time to get the max of it!!!

I always saw asthma as a difficulty to inhale, but I?m wondering if it could not be the inverse, the difficulty of exhale and therefore a difficulty to release the Co2 in a normal time. This could turn into a vicious circle. Trying to inhale more, but can not release more? Too much Co2 = tiredness??? Anyone had ever heard of something like this??? Or anyone understand the deep details of the mechanics behind asthma??? Can my asthma and my peanut allergic reaction at 1 year be related???

From those two extremes, I would rate my normal breath as 40 % of these, and when I do cardio, I would say 20 %. Since the last week, I practice twice a day the Neti nasal cleaning. I was not hopping that much from this technique, but felt easy and secure to try. Surprisingly I find out it always increase my breathing capacity at about 50 % or 55 % of the best breathe I experienced. Incredible!!!

Now with the Neti technique, I feel much more comfortable to breath by my nostrils than my mouth. By breathing with my mouth, I fell some itching in my throat. With the result from the Neti cleaning, I am wondering which of the others kriyas must make my throat fell as comfortable as my nasal cavities??? Is there others easy and safe kriyas that I can do for the throat???

For those who are still reading thank you for reading this (I know it?s a bit long) and the help if you feel to have some answers or comments ?

Stef

Dear Stef,

Indeed, that’s quite an introduction! I sympathise with your asthmatic condition and hope that you can make further progress using yogic or other holistic techniques. Answering your questions just briefly:

Yoga can help relax your body and your air passages. That is probably why you experienced a satisfying breath after your yoga session. Many people with asthma have stressful and “bad” breathing habits, like mouth breathing, over-breathing, chest breathing … Almost everybody can improve on their breathing pattern once they become aware of it and start to re-educate themselves with relatively simple exercises.

Asthma involves stress on the inhalation and the exhalation. There is one theory that says that asthma is related to exhaling too much CO2, making the blood more alkaline. The remedy would to breathe in smaller portions. Check out the Butekyo method on the web and see if there are any classes near you, or if there are any books appealing to you.

It is possible that exposure to an allergen (like peanut butter in your case) triggered asthma. But this was a long time ago. Why not focus on improving your breathing now and worry about the past later?

There are simple yogic methods available to help you. A first step would be to clean up your diet, making it more sattvic, e.g. simple unprocessed foods, including fresh fruit and lightly cooked green vegetables, avoiding meat, dairy products, refined foods and heavy and oily foods.

Light exercise is good, but do not do this to exhaustion. Utilise only 50% of your capacity, avoiding competition. Swimming, jogging, walking are good, too.

Jala neti is a good way to clean your nasal passages, when done correctly.

Yoga nidra can help you to relax.

By far the best yogic breathing exercise to do at first is abdominal breathing in savasana. Learn to relax your mouth and throat while doing this. At a later stage, you can add three-part breathing and kapalabhati kriya. Uddiyana bandha can be an important element in treating asthma as well.

It is often difficult to diagnose and cure your own conditions. We all have our blind spots! So I would encourage you to take individual classes with a yoga therapist or yoga teacher well-versed in pranayama. Alternatively, look for someone who can teach you the Buteyko method.

Just to follow up - a good yoga nidra series of CDs is by James Jewell (yogamountainyogasea.com or amazon) - they start with a focus on the breath, and then lead into a deeper state. But it goes way beyond relaxation in that you also plant resolutions into the fertile relaxed mind, so you can encourage attitudes and states that you want to strengthen within yourself. You might try something on breathing!

Thank Willem for your advise. You are right when you say to use only 50% of my capacity while doing some cardio related exercise. Since a few year I realize that I prefer not to push my limit to much, so I stop before exhaustion.

Thank also for the Buteyko method, It is the first time I hear of that and by looking on wikipedia, I found the principles interesting. I will investigate a bit more and see if their is some teacher in my area …

For the diet, my first totally vegetarian week is completed and I must say that meat and other non-vegetarian food don’t miss me at all for now. For the dairy products, I already stop them for a while, I found out they don’t suite for me …

Their is one thing that fright me about being totaly vegetarian, it’s that I have ever read that for some people with a certain blood group, it was harder to deal with a complete vegetarian diet ??? I don’t know if it’s right or not …

For now, I will try to sprout some seeds and grains to see how I like it. Will see !!!

Thank for your help.

Steph

There is no reason to be dogmatic about your vegetarian diet. I have a yogini friend who discovered that she needs to eat two small helpings of red meat weekly to feel good. Nothing wrong with that, to my mind. Just do what is appropriate for you.

I hope that you will find a teacher. In the meantime, never underestimate the value of abdominal breathing in savasana. Lie on your back, bent knees. Relax your mouth and throat. Maybe put the palms of your hands lightly on your lower abdomen. Breathe in and out and feel the sensation of your hands moving on the rhythm of your breath. Slightly accentuate the inhale, sending a full column of air down towards your hands. A few minutes will suffice. It’s that simple.

Dear Capella,

My friend, I know how challenging asthma
can be as I [I]had[/I] it also. I am familiar with
every inhaler, allergy shots and medication there is.
I know what it feels like to ‘panic’ when you can’t
get air and you feel as though you are suffocating.
I have not touched any of that stuff in many, many years.

From Capella: I suffer effort related asthma since I am young.
Asthma, as you described: EIA, or Exercise Induced Asthma
is often triggered by an allergen, temperature change, stress, etc. like the
exercise you mentioned. Remember, exercise [I]is[/I] stress…a ‘good’ stress,
but it is still stress placed upon the body.

Asthma is a reversible lung disease. Medical researchers have learned that
the key to healing the typical asthmatic[I] loss [/I]of the normal pause at the end of exhalations can be healed by learning to allow the inhalation to spontaneously grow out of this pause.

The good news is that a regular yoga practice (including pranayama) will help.
I started mine (practice) at 16. I’ve been fully tested (pulmonary rating)
and the Lung Specialist/Dr. was baffled that I had the lung-power
of “an Olympian athlete”…to quote him. [I]That[/I] was because of a rigorous pranayama discipline that
I pursued to heal my condition. So…take heart, you can triumph, too.

Initially, I would recommend a DAILY gentle series of asanas followed by twenty minutes of Savasana.
Do 5 minutes first with the complete breath…then just the pose…no directed breath.

During the initial phase of Savasana work on lengthening your exhalations.
Do not force this action of the lungs. Using Savasana as a template, practice visualization techniques,
i.e. like opening the heart chakra…seeing a green sphere of pulsating light, etc.

[B]Now the big stuff: [/B]Emotions play an important role with asthma…

LOVE yourself…YOU are a beautiful Soul. Feel [I]that[/I] LOVE [I]in the Greatest Degree[/I].
Whatever your Soul came to do in this life…it is time NOW, [I]in this present moment[/I], for YOU to love yourself unconditionally.

Release any unconscious fear (you may wish to consult a good licensed hypno-therapist) and seek advice from a yoga teacher and therapist that you resonate to. Make sure that they are aware of possible poor posture characterized by kyphosis (rounding of the upper back) and hypolordosis (flattening of the lumbar curve) which make normal diaphragmatic breathing difficult. You’ll be guided to one that will help you to love yourself. Breathe in all the beauty that this life has to offer.
Love yourself with making the best choices for your optimal health.

From Capella: Their is one thing that fright me about being totaly vegetarian, it’s that I have ever read that for some people with a certain blood group, it was harder to deal with a complete vegetarian diet ??? I don’t know if it’s right or not …

You may be referring to The Blood Type Diet protocols of Dr. Peter D’Adamo?
If you are blood type A…great; you [I]should[/I] be a vegetarian. If you are O, B or AB then not–according to this research.
I’ve been using his methods for more than 10 years and feel great. Google him www.dadamo.com if you need info on that.

You’ve received some great advice here (Willem and others)…so,
take a relaxing breath right now…here at the computer. We’re here
for you. Great first post! You’re question will help many.
:wink:

Best with Blessings,
Nancy

P.S. Read [I]The Breathing Book [/I]by Donna Farhi (known as ‘[I]THE[/I] Book’ on breathing… as well as the classic, [I]Light on Pranayama [/I]by Iyengar