Food, how much do we need? - Page 2

Lars Rimböck · 11-23-2007, 06:47 AM

IT depends on the individual if there are limits of fasting or not.
But my expierence was once dtrying a 40 days fasting that it reaches my limits, since I´m a light weigth.
The experience was spiritualy excellent but my body reached it`s limits.
Since I did`nt want to end like the donkey in the story I had to accept these limits.
All the best
Lars

Hubert · 11-23-2007, 07:50 AM

There are several consequences of a 40 day's fast, in case of an average person (no chakras fully activated, no yoga practice).
The brain needs around 100 g of glucose daily, for it's various purpuses. It's only fuel is this substance. If it does not come with food, the body will try to get it from what it can.
The glucose (glycogen) deposits in muscles and liver are the first used in case of fasting. Than an interesting thing happens ... the usage of fat deposits is slow. Because of this, in case of fasting, rather than to reduce brain activity, the body will start to use up muscle mass, at around 100 grams/day (as syntesis from proteins is faster than that from fat, and 1 gram of protein is aproximatley the same calory count of 4 than glucose.) So in the beginning phase, musclemass is used, for a few days, than, when the body realizes that the fasting will continue, will try to prevent loss of muscle mass by reducing both brain and muscular activity. A certain lethargy sets in. So by fasting, the mind and body (the senses) are dulled and put to rest, this way a ceirtain autonomy of the soul/consciusness is gained. From this moment, the body's resources are used up in a much slower rate, but their amount expire around the 40th day, and the body perishes.
It is important to note that the really first proteins to be used up are the digestive enzymes, so getting back to normal feeding must be gradual, to prevent death by autointoxycation.

Lars Rimböck · 11-24-2007, 05:45 AM

Thanks Hubert for the exact description.
That was exacly what I wanted to say, but I could´nt explain it as good as you did.
All the best
Lars

northernyogi · 11-25-2007, 09:17 PM

I have an eating schedule that is 2 days of 2700 calories/day then I fast on every 3rd day. It's great for self discipline and to give the digestive system a little rest. On the days that I eat, I use nutrition software to record everything to ensure I am getting all the nutrients my body needs. On the fasting days I can drink any liquids (i.e water, coffee, tea, etc), that I want.

justwannabe · 11-27-2007, 06:48 PM

being a northern yogi, do you believe that calories dictate the nutritional value/energy of food?

earthsoul8 · 11-28-2007, 01:45 PM

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northernyogi · 12-03-2007, 05:55 AM

Tubeseeker,

Calories are just a unit of measurement to tell you basically how much energy a portion/serving will generate. To monitor this only would not give you the whole picture. To have a healthy diet you must also monitor nutrient content (i.e. vitamin, minerals...)

justwannabe · 12-03-2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northernyogi

Tubeseeker,

Calories are just a unit of measurement to tell you basically how much energy a portion/serving will generate. To monitor this only would not give you the whole picture. To have a healthy diet you must also monitor nutrient content (i.e. vitamin, minerals...)

so 2500 calories of beef would provide the body with the same amount of energy that 2500 calories that fruits and vegtables would?

northernyogi · 12-04-2007, 04:15 PM

yes, it would provide the same amount of 'energy', but different nutrients.

11-23-2007, 06:47 AM	#21
Lars Rimböck Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 96	IT depends on the individual if there are limits of fasting or not. But my expierence was once dtrying a 40 days fasting that it reaches my limits, since I´m a light weigth. The experience was spiritualy excellent but my body reached it`s limits. Since I did`nt want to end like the donkey in the story I had to accept these limits. All the best Lars __________________ http://www.yoga-schule.org http://www.yoga-school.org

11-24-2007, 05:45 AM	#23
Lars Rimböck Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 96	Thanks Hubert for the exact description. That was exacly what I wanted to say, but I could´nt explain it as good as you did. All the best Lars __________________ http://www.yoga-schule.org http://www.yoga-school.org

11-27-2007, 06:48 PM	#25
justwannabe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 505	being a northern yogi, do you believe that calories dictate the nutritional value/energy of food? __________________ I am light, I am love, I am peace, I am kindness, I am happiness, I am here, it is now. I am, and so are you

11-28-2007, 01:45 PM	#26
earthsoul8 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 26	solar gazing... This may be of interest to you... Documented... Scientific research... YouTube - Solar Gazing with HRM; Part1 Complete solar gazing process described by Hira Ratan Manek ... Watch video - 48 min - YouTube - Solar Gazing with HRM; Part1

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11-23-2007, 07:50 AM	#22
Hubert Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 717	There are several consequences of a 40 day's fast, in case of an average person (no chakras fully activated, no yoga practice). The brain needs around 100 g of glucose daily, for it's various purpuses. It's only fuel is this substance. If it does not come with food, the body will try to get it from what it can. The glucose (glycogen) deposits in muscles and liver are the first used in case of fasting. Than an interesting thing happens ... the usage of fat deposits is slow. Because of this, in case of fasting, rather than to reduce brain activity, the body will start to use up muscle mass, at around 100 grams/day (as syntesis from proteins is faster than that from fat, and 1 gram of protein is aproximatley the same calory count of 4 than glucose.) So in the beginning phase, musclemass is used, for a few days, than, when the body realizes that the fasting will continue, will try to prevent loss of muscle mass by reducing both brain and muscular activity. A certain lethargy sets in. So by fasting, the mind and body (the senses) are dulled and put to rest, this way a ceirtain autonomy of the soul/consciusness is gained. From this moment, the body's resources are used up in a much slower rate, but their amount expire around the 40th day, and the body perishes. It is important to note that the really first proteins to be used up are the digestive enzymes, so getting back to normal feeding must be gradual, to prevent death by autointoxycation.

11-25-2007, 09:17 PM	#24
northernyogi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	I have an eating schedule that is 2 days of 2700 calories/day then I fast on every 3rd day. It's great for self discipline and to give the digestive system a little rest. On the days that I eat, I use nutrition software to record everything to ensure I am getting all the nutrients my body needs. On the fasting days I can drink any liquids (i.e water, coffee, tea, etc), that I want.

12-03-2007, 05:55 AM	#27
northernyogi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	Tubeseeker, Calories are just a unit of measurement to tell you basically how much energy a portion/serving will generate. To monitor this only would not give you the whole picture. To have a healthy diet you must also monitor nutrient content (i.e. vitamin, minerals...)

12-04-2007, 04:15 PM	#29
northernyogi Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	yes, it would provide the same amount of 'energy', but different nutrients.