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Old 03-25-2008, 11:22 PM   #1
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Jesus lived in India

I know this has little to do with yoga, but I view Christ as one of the best examples of a karma yogi, so perhaps it has some relevance.

I have just completed reading the book Jesus lived in India by Holger Kersten and I have found it truely an amazing book. Has anyone else read it, if so, would you like to share your thoughts on the content?

Personally, the book has just confirmed for me what I suspected all these years, that Jesus didn't died on the cross, but that he survived the ordeal and then went on to teach and live in India. I always had this inner feeling about it, perhaps I was in incarnation at the time when he lived and taught in India, it feels right to me anyway.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:08 AM   #2
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Does anyone have his address there. I've got something I need to send to him.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:25 AM   #3
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IA, whose address, that of Jesus or that of Holger Kersten?
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:32 PM   #4
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Jesus of course. Why on earth would I want to contact Kersten instead?
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:35 PM   #5
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Then IA, you should know of course to go within, it's that obvious.

If you want the physical address:

Jesus Shrine
Rosa Bal
Old Srinigar City
India
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:44 PM   #6
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Touché for handling me so flawlessly.
You are a true master as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:54 PM   #7
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All praise and prostrations to the Divine Mother Pandara, I AM merely an expression and instrument of Divine Will.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:28 PM   #8
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I always thought he lived on in ones heart?
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:12 PM   #9
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To which heart do you refer now?
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Old 06-14-2008, 04:40 AM   #10
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The right heart!
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Old 06-14-2008, 05:35 AM   #11
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As I am taught, Jesus' self had the duty to develop Jesus' body to be able to recieve The Word (Cosmic Self, Christ) and that did happen at his baptism in the Jordan, by John the Baptist. " He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him".

What is here important, that after this, Jesus was not a man who had a relation with this Cosmic Self, as all the profhets and gurus before, but The Cosmic Self Himself, incarnated, The Word incarnated, God incarnated. This is a central thought of christianity, but one not really understood, but seen as a mistery.
This physical presence was ended by Jesus' death on the cross. That death was the death of the Jesus' body.
Jesus was prepared by the esseness, a closed community of people dedicated to spiritual life.

What did happen to the former Jesus self ... that's a good question. My studies are not that far yet, and all this is what I have read, not result of direct spiritual insight.

I do not know the book you talk about but I have read things about the lost years. I would not exclude anything, but I would bet on that the hystorical Jesus' body died on the cross, bearing the Christ. This is The Mistery of Golgotha. I cannot comprehend it yet, not through imagination, intuition, inspiration, not through ordinary reason ... but this is why it is a mistery. I think this is revealed by spiritual insight only to people with very high level of initiation.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:52 AM   #12
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Yes, the right heart Prascina, well put.

Hubert, I think the lost years, those between his last appearance at 12 in the temple and then his emergence at age ±30, is well documented.

I was about 7 when my mother one night just before Easter read us children the crucifixion story again. After she read it I told her that that is not the truth, they are lying, of course she was very upset about this and told me to never say anything like that again. Well that started the search for me as I have always believed that the story in the Bible is not historically correct. Years later during a regression one day it came out that I was witness to documents in a previous incarnation which actually confirmed that Jesus was cruxified, but that he didn't die on the cross. Anyway, when in India last year I saw this book (Jesus lived in India) and knew immediately there is an answer in it for me and indeed this has been so.

I personally think that the part of the crucifixion which did happen has great mystery veiled in and behind it and that what you say about it is very true. But the events that took place after he has "risen" and where he has gone, for me there is a lot of mystery locked in that as well.

Would love to chat about it when you have read the book one day.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:52 PM   #13
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Thank you for sharing the personal elements.

In fact, I'd not exclude anything, as I said. My teacher, whom I believe in, teaches that the body was buried through an earthcake, the same what moved the stone covering the door. True, not true, I do not know. I admit my intuition had it's doubts but as far as my teacher is much more knowledgable than I am, usually I take what he says for true, until the contray is proved, (and we are encouraged to just do so, as he admittedly is not infallibe) rather than doubting everything. The latter leads to cristicism, criticism leads to lack of respect, lack of respect leads to disappeareance of awe, disappereance of awe leads to a dry soul, uncapable to recieve higher truths.

I beleive, the forces of soul awakened by meditating on a myth, a wonderful story, a poem, are the ones what make one perceptive to the spiritual, and it is of little importance if the actual stories really did happen, or are exactly true historically. Thoughts have their reality, but I do not have to tell you this, you are one who knows much more than me.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:39 PM   #14
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What ever the history is the teachings are wonderful!
The non-violence...'Thou shall not kill'..
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:52 PM   #15
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Jesus lived in India and practised yoga

Hi Pandara,

I have just completed a modest research work on the historical Jesus. I am convinced that he travelled to India twice, once at 13 and once after the Crucifixion and Resurrection, and that he died a second time in Kashmir somewhere between the ages of 120 and 180. The Nathanamavali mentions him as one of the Nathas, along with Patanjali (200 BC). Bhagavan Nityananda of Ganeshpuri (d. 1961) was also a Natha yogi. The Acts of Yesu the Saviour by Siphor, a 1st c. Kharoshthi (ancient Pakistani) text mentions Jesus' practice of a yogic technique for celibacy. The Kriya Yoga tradition remembers Him as a master of Kriya Yoga.

To me this does not have to contradict the Gospel in the Bible. The mentions of him in the ancient Eastern texts also say that he was Avalokiteshwar, the World Teacher or Maitreya, the Messiah who was predicted to come, innocent and tender, to show humanity the way of love rather than revenge.

The research is up at Isha Natha Yoga

Amen and Aum Shanti to your heart,

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Old 07-05-2008, 04:20 AM   #16
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Guess I'm gonna personally check it. But that will have to wait as I have other areas to spend my love on.
Thank you for sharing your research, ishanathayoga.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:04 PM   #17
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Hi Merry,

Namaste and thank you for this link, will work through it, has already read some very interesting bits and piece.

I don't think the world will change because of this book and other research, the world is not ready, but there are individuals, like myself, who needs the change on the inner levels and this book as well as your research provides some of the grounding work for the chnages inside.

Thank you.
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