Mind Portal and Dharma Flower

[Pandara]

Dear Jozen-Bo,

Thanks for the good prayers and thoughts, I appreciate them and the same from me, I shall bless your endeavour so that those who need it may find it and use it. And as you say this is the beauty about freedom (which is one of the main aims of yoga as well) that you can look at the great menu of life and see the many different dishes on it without fear, but that doesn't mean I have to taste each and every dish. When I was younger I did taste, I have established what I like and I belief when on a certain path one should stick to it, when you zig-zag from one path to the other, you actually hamper your own evolution. So I'll stick to mine for the time being.

On the attachment, I see your point and I respect that. As my own teacher said as yogis we need to learn to be in the world and not of the world. That is the challenge which will free us from attachment. Just my own personal view.

[Jozen-Bo]

Originally Posted by moth

...this is what scares me about yoga...

Could you maybe explain why this is scary? What exactly about this Mind Portal do you find frightening? Thanks, Jozen!

[Jozen-Bo]

Originally Posted by Hubert

Interesting. I will give some attention to this as soon I am able.
I try to be open to everything, and even things do not work as they supposed to, I often find shards what in time can be united into a bigger picture.

For those who are well on their path in a school, this might be a distraction, for those still seeking it might prove an interesting piece of the puzzle. For some it might even work ...
Later, and thanks.

I am glad you find this of interest and that you are open to it! I agree with what you say about shards uniting into a bigger picture. The Mind Portal exposed the whole picture, when all of its keys are activated! For those in the earlier years of school, what you are saying may very well apply. But university students would gain a great deal from this, it is a tool for learning. I will give an example...fill in a foreign alphabet into the calendar, put the calendar on a wheel, and spin the information into your mind! Math formula's could be memorized quicker and stick longer! Other potentials can as well be accessed once one knows how! Furthermore, the mind begins to operate quicker and with more clarity, this would make study much easier. Thanks for the input Hubert. I hope to hear form you soon!

[Jozen-Bo]

Originally Posted by Pandara

Dear Jozen-Bo,

Thanks for the good prayers and thoughts, I appreciate them and the same from me, I shall bless your endeavour so that those who need it may find it and use it. And as you say this is the beauty about freedom (which is one of the main aims of yoga as well) that you can look at the great menu of life and see the many different dishes on it without fear, but that doesn't mean I have to taste each and every dish. When I was younger I did taste, I have established what I like and I belief when on a certain path one should stick to it, when you zig-zag from one path to the other, you actually hamper your own evolution. So I'll stick to mine for the time being.

Hello Pandara,
Its been a while, I've been caught up and very busy. I would like to thank you for the warm response. I suppose it might appear that I intend to stick on this path as it were. I imagine it could be considered a path. Its not my intention to fill out maps for the rest of eternity, however, just to clear things a little. I am using it with knowledge that it dissolves eventually as the code changes its direction and expression. This is, perhaps, a very difficult thing to clear up, know that I think about it; the Mind itself is the Portal, this is merely a tool of the Mind. I am trying to figure out and understand it myself, certain thought patterns seem intuitive and irrational, while others are obvious or sought after and more rational. The idea is to get off the path by getting on it.

This brings me to a philosophical question I have often pondered. Some say it is the journey and not the destination that counts, while others are focused on the destination. The point of any path is to go somewhere. I am left considering if we just keep going for ever, does the path ever end? In part, this is why the Mind Portal was conjured into our awareness. I wanted to get a better idea of what these different paths are and see where they are going. I didn't just look into one path, I have been trying to incorporate every path, get inside that mindset of the path and understand it from within the experience of it.

If I had to answer this question myself right now I'd say that the path is not meant to be followed forever, it eventually serves its purpose. The destination is pathless, and yet being a destination, one can only reach it by path. What is the destination? I think we both know, so I won't say.

Originally Posted by Pandara

On the attachment, I see your point and I respect that. As my own teacher said as yogis we need to learn to be in the world and not of the world. That is the challenge which will free us from attachment. Just my own personal view.

I enjoy this! It is very succinct and insightful. Attachment is a bonding force, if we remain attached to anything at all then we are bound to the cycles of life and death. A baby is attached to its mother, and new spirits are attached to life and death itself. Just as the baby eventually must let go from the mother, so spirits let go of the cycles. This is obviously just my opinion, as I know many people who believe we are to reincarnate forever without end. Sure, but how do two conflicting views cease to contradict? I suspect the answer is in the meaning and potential of reincarnation itself.

Hope all is well for you and everyone else!

[Bridgette]

I feel a bit like a gold fish swimming in the ocean in this thread but it’s really fascinating!! I wish I could give constructive thoughts but as I have stated, this in unfamiliar territory for me however it has intrigued me enough to plunge into further contemplation. Thank you

[Pandara]

Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo

I suppose it might appear that I intend to stick on this path as it were. I imagine it could be considered a path.

Namaste Jozen-Bo,

I think it is good for you to do what you deem necessary and appropriate to do at the moment. Any path is always a road less travelled, it is always a journey towards a destination and I belief as with all awesome journeys they end up in an awesome destination, which is not necessarily the end, because we know there is a next town after what we perceive to be the end of our journey/destination, or we can simply follow the same path back. Point is as we progress on our paths we have greater responsibility in the co-creation of that path and how you achieve that, it is up to you. If you find it accessible through the work you do (the Mind Poartal), then so be it, it is for no one to say it is right or wrong, but it is for each one his/her responsibility to decide wether it is appropriate or not at this very moment of his/her life.

Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo

This brings me to a philosophical question I have often pondered. Some say it is the journey and not the destination that counts, while others are focused on the destination. The point of any path is to go somewhere. I am left considering if we just keep going for ever, does the path ever end? In part, this is why the Mind Portal was conjured into our awareness. I wanted to get a better idea of what these different paths are and see where they are going. I didn't just look into one path, I have been trying to incorporate every path, get inside that mindset of the path and understand it from within the experience of it.

It is neither the journey nor the destination that is important for me, but what I experience, what I learn, what I share and how I serve my fellow beings along the way. If your Mind Portal helps you to cultivate awareness by incorporating the many paths, then explore it and see what you experience, what can you learn and share, but most important how you can eventually serve your fellow human beings through this path you are exploring and creating. I think it is Sri Satya Sai Baba who said once service to man is service to God (this I say under correction as I can't remember who said it.)

Does the path ever ends? Does it really matter? What matters, is your awareness about/of the path, through your own awareness you add to the rich tapestry for the many who will follow or lead. For me there is neither a beginning nor an end, just a continuation and as you said yourself, it is a pathless road (excuse the contradiction here, but words fail me to explain it better.)

Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo

This is obviously just my opinion, as I know many people who believe we are to reincarnate forever without end. Sure, but how do two conflicting views cease to contradict? I suspect the answer is in the meaning and potential of reincarnation itself.

Many people say a lot of things and all things many people say are not always to be taken as absolute truth. Truth is subjective and as such always contradictory in nature, therefore my truth can't be yours just as yours can't be mine, but we can share and learn and then take and incorporate it into our own truth.

About reincarnation - I think the Divine has allowed it to be declared a heresy in Christianity by the Church and in the process the teaching was ommitted from Christain dogma and teaching, because the Divine knew too much has already being said about it and the Divine couldn't bear to hear the many views of the Christains on it as well.

As Tubeseeker always say - Enjoy the ride.