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Old 07-18-2007, 03:31 AM   #1
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Vedas,yoga and meditation

dear friends hello,

i am pasting one of the most powerful mantras of vedas it is called Gayatri Mantra, The rishi who has seen and heard during meditattion was Maharishi Viswamitra.He was the contemporary of Lord Ram, Rishi Vashista.As per valmiki ramayan, Lord ram has taken birth in dwapar yuga approx 17.7 Million year ago(The bridge he constructed to go to lanka is called adams bridge now).Sage valmiki a contemporary was inspired to write about Lord Ram.Lord Ram was the follower of Vedas, a yogi and highly realised soul.He was the desciple of Rishi Vashistha.He is considered to be an incarnation of Lord Vishnu.Lord ram was an ideal husband,son,brother and king.In india he is worshipped till date.
Dear friend this mantra the meaning of which i am giving is explained by my guru.Do learn to recite it, yogis say its the most powerful.Recite it as many times you want while meditating.I hope you all may get benefit from this.Finally pray to god to enable us to know the truth :
Everybody wants peace and happiness. Nobody wants a single sorrow. That is why the soul is bound with karma (deeds) theory that whatever the soul wants, it is not necessary that she will get it. It is rightly said that Man proposes, God disposes. However the origin of soul in human body is empowered to burn all the sorrows by virtue of worship, hard and pious deeds to get happy and peaceful life and even to attain salvation. In this pious way Gayatri mantra is very much beneficial for human beings. The Gayatri mantra is given in Yajurveda mantra 22/9, 30/2. 36/3, Saamveda mantra 1462 and Rigveda mantra 3/62/10. So this mantra has been praised in Manusmriti shlok 2/81 to say it the mouth of God.

The Gayatri mantra is as follows ---
OM BHURBHUVAHA SWAHA TATA SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGODEVASYA DHIMAHI DHIYO YO NHA PRACHODYAT
Om is a saviour of all and immortal. So this name is everlasting and we must remember it repeatedly. Bhuhu----base of breath i.e., creator (God). Bhuvaha----ends sorrows (God). Swaha----omnipresent (God) .Tata ...he, Savitaha--- creator of whole Universe .Varenyam--- Acceptable .Devha---giver of pleasure. Bhagha---unsophisticated/clean/pure or Supreme. Dhimahi---meditate/concentrate i.e., we do meditation of Almighty God who is base of breath of all, ends sorrows, omnipresent, creator, acceptable , giver of pleasure, unsophisticated/Supreme. Now see second part----
Yaha---who, Dhiyha---mind, Nha--- our, Prachodyat---enlightenment with wisdom i.e., the adorable God may enlighten our mind with wisdom.
Yajur Veda Matra 31/7 says that the Vedas are originated from God. So Gayatri Mantra is a complete prayer preached direct by God to us for our benefit which everyone must adhered to. Question may arise why? We see the sun, moon, earth, our body etc., and can guess that these have not been made by us except God. God has given us every facility like water, food, air, milk and family etc., then if we can not even remember/pray Him (God) in return, then it will be a direct thanklessness towards God, which is the most hatred sin.

Rig Veda Mantra 10/110/8 says that while worshipping we have to keep in mind the three aspects ---1. Stuti (description of true qualities in God) 2.Upasana(to sit nearest to God) God being omnipresent is always within us but being indulged with materialistic world we can not realize Him. For Upasana---Worship the word "Dhimahi " i.e., meditation has been used in Gayatri Mantra. So when we keep aside the materialistic world for sometime both in morning and evening and meditate,worship, do japa or Yajna etc., then it is said that we are sitting nearest to God . 3.Prayer--- by virtue of prayer we are inspired to do auspicious deeds .For prayer the words in Gayatri Mantra are Yha Dhiyha Nha Prachodyat i.e., we pray God to enlighten our mind with wisdom. Due to the lack of this tradition mostly we forget this primary requirement of worship with the result our worship may go in vain. The Gayatri Mantra is thus sound and fulfill the said requirements together as mentioned in above Rig-Veda. In the Vedas there is no other Mantra like this containing three aspects together.

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Old 07-18-2007, 03:57 AM   #2
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What I learnt form Rudolf Steiner:
The Vedas, -written in a time when people had vital bodies excessing their physical bodies, and such, they still had a connection through it to the spiritual world - represent spiritual realities not for just understanding but as they are result of actual experincing, and not revelations to profhets and recorded by other people, as the Bible as example, they are divine also in their form. That does not mean one cannot use reason to study them, but they are more than a text to understood.

I am glad that through your explanations I've become a bit more familiar how the Vedas are, Rashmi.

(Comparison is used as it is, without any judgement of value. Of course both these holy sources have good reasons to be as they are.)

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Old 07-22-2007, 11:01 PM   #3
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Yoga - way to annihiliate Karmas

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by now you must have an little insight into Vedas.The knowledge of Vedas is called aporeshaya means it is not created by any body, nobody has written it. All the seers have clearly written that it is of divine origin.Till treta yuga i.e pre mahabharat war this knowledge and knowledge of Yoga was imparted in gurukuls till the age of 25 to all the disciples.All the students under the seers used to follow vow of brahmacharya.And after that they used to chose the ashrams of there choice.Ladies/girls also used to study vedas do yogas and realise god. In Vedas there are nearly 30 Rishikaswho were mantradrishta.To arrive at any point or to conclude truth there used to be shastrath i.e debate where scohalrs used to put their points.One such famous debate is between Gargi Guru of Sita mata and King janak and rishi Yagavallak.The practise of astanga yoga and preach of vedas never go waste.When you follow both you accumulate good karmas as we all have our duty towards God.In your next birth You will continue from where you have left.Further knowledge of vedas is called Brahama vidya, Brahma means almighty God.This knowledge is never destroyed as said by gyanis.The knowledge of Yoga is self contained in Vedas.In spite of distortions/changes you can always learn it in the purest form by the Knower of Vedas.Further i would like to mention there is one and only one yoga i.e Astanga yoga unlike so many forms available today i.e Power yoga, christian yoga .... We under the three gunas of prakriti commit such mistakes of monopolising yoga which is a divine knowledge for the benefit of human race.The seers till date has not modified it.The preach of vedas purifies your senses and makes you acquainted with true nature of soul , further it gives other worldly knowledge like astrology, mathematics etc.All the upnishads, even the preach of Bhagwad Gita is based on Vedas .Coupled with this the knowledge of Yoga step by step annihilate your Karmas accumulated over no of births.At the satage of nirvikalp samadhi when you realise god you are liberated.
So be sincere in your practice of yoga and if possible gain the true Knowledge of Vedas.However to get the real knowledge of vedas is difficult outside india.I find even difficult in india.The authentic commentries are of Swami Dayanand Saraswati but it is in Hindi, he was a realised yogi and knower of yogas, you can get it in Arya Samaj.However read Gita, the commentry close to the hindi versions are by Swami AC Bhalkivedata Prabhupad.B'cos at times it is difficult to translate everything in english as some words of Sanskrit have deeper meanings.Personally i have a copy of Gita written by Saint Gyaneshwar, he wrote gita some where in 1400 AD when he was 15 years old.He took mahasamadhi at the age of 21.With the hard practice of yoga, its yama, niyam and meditation we can realise God.Further we require devotion(Bhakti),Knowledge(Gyan) and prayer.While meditation repeat gayatri mantra.This will help you a lot.In addition to all this discharge your duties towarde spouse, children and parents dedicatedly.All the seers were married, while discharging all the duties they used to follow brahmacharya, untill you want to be a naishtik brahmachari.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:19 AM   #4
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I would like to add Mahamrityunjaya Mantra. Maybe someone would like to use it. I found it on web site Swamij.com (I found link to this web site in one of the older threads and I really like it)

Rashmi I'm waiting for Bhagavad Gita with the commentary of Gandhi. I ordered it a while ago. Are you familiar with it?

Mahamrityunjaya Mantra
VIDEO (6:45 minutes)
By Swami Jnaneshvara and Swami Nardanand

CLICK HERE:
YouTube - Mahamrityunjaya Mantra: Yoga Meditation, Vedanta, Tantra

Mahamrityunjaya Mantra is one of the more potent of the ancient
Sanskrit mantras. It is a call for enlightenment and is a practice of
purifying the karmas of the soul at a deep level. It can also be
quite beneficial for mental, emotional, and physical health. This
video has forty audio recitations of the mantra, as well as
explanations of its meaning. Mahamrityunjaya is a useful practice in
Yoga Meditation, Vedanta, and Tantra.

Om Tryambakam Yajamahe
Sugandhim Pushtivardhanam
Urvarukamiva Bandhanan
Mrityor Mukshiya Maamritat

We meditate on the three-eyed reality
Which permeates, sustains and nourishes all like a fragrance.
May we be free from the powerful disease-like bondage,
And receive the nectar that removes ignorance and brings liberation.

See also this link for more info on the mantra:
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:46 AM   #5
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Maha Mrityunjay Mantra

Dear Friend
This Mrtityunjay mantra is from yajurveda. When i was not aware of knowledge of vedas a brahmin had given me the same mantra for recitation.However the full mantra with details i am pasting, the meaning is from my pujya guruji, for the benefit of all
This mantra is mentioned in Yajurveda chapter 3 mantra 60 and Rigveda mandal 7 sukt 59 mantra 12. The mantra is "TREYAMBAKAM YAJAMAHE SUGANDHIM PUSHTIVARDHNAM URVARUKMIV BANDHNANMRITYORMUKSHIY MAMRITAT" (Rigveda 7/59/12).

Meaning:
Sugandhim = having fame, pushtivardhnam = who increases powers, treyambakam = who save us in past, present and future, yajamahe = we worship that God, urvarukmiv = like ripened musk melon, bandhnat = from binding, mrityoh= from death, mukshiy = to be free, amritat= from salvation, ma, aa= not.

Full meaning:
We worship the God who is having fame, increases power and who saves us. May I be free from death like ripened musk melon and one should not be away from getting salvation. Here is a word yajamahe, which means to worship daily and to be attached with God. So we must worship daily while doing yajna and jaap of holy name of God. And by practicing ashtang yoga. This is what the mantra is telling. So according to mantra we must worship the God whose qualities have been described in the mantra. And this mantra must be chanted while doing Yajna (Yagya) offering our aahuti of ghee and samagri in havan kund. We have to follow the order of the mantra. Suppose we do not worship to do Yajna or to do jaap of holy name of God, then it is of no use of mere chanting. So one thing is clear that its name is not Mahamritanjay mantra. It is Rigveda and Yajurved's mantra which tells us about God.

Dear Mirjana i will advise you to read commentry of Gita bY some realised soul.However Gandhi Ji was a great soul he was inspired by Gita and vedas.How it has transformed his life the account must be published in a book,but he was not a yogi .The Gita is in sanskrit, and all these ancient compositions have two meanings one is literal or shabdik meaning and other one spiritual meaning .These can be best understood by yogis. You can get it from Ramkrishna mission, Arya samaj etc.Swami Bhaktivedants one is good one, he was a realised soul.Generally best commentries are in hindi.Now everybody writes his own commentries.In this regard you want some help let me know.Why i say to read commentries from realised souls because there five senses are controlled and they do not have I i.e ego, ahankar and there indriyas are in control.So this knowledge which stems from the hard practice of astanga yoga, realisation and preach of vedas purifies there soul and senses is purest and away from all vices and prejudices .
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Mirjana,
I have the Bhagavad Gita According to Ghandhi and it is my favorite copy right now.
Here is another translation of the Mahamrityunjaya Mantra that also includes a very clear pronunciation of each word.
Online Sanskrit Pronunciation Guide
Dr. Sarasvati Buhrman, the director at my previous school, said that this mantra was both healing and sanctified our classroom, so we would sometimes put the Mahamrityunjaya Mantra on repeat so it played overnight before we met again for class. It has also part of every homa that I have attended.


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Thank you both for the response! I see that you both have a personal experience with Mahamrityunjaya mantra. I was just passing it to the forum in case someone could benefit from.
I agree that Gandhi was a great soul and I'm sure I can learn a lot from his thoughts and the way he did experience Bhagavad Gita. But I will remember and keep it in mind your advice Rashmi.

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Places of Spiritual importance- India

Dear friends
Namaste,
Today i would like to share few sacred places of India where i have gone with my family.During late 1800Ad two great souls in india have graced the world , who were living yogis , a siddha.In india people irrespective of cast, creed or religion used to flock to them.These two great souls are Sai Baba of shirdi and Swami Nityananda.Sai baba the illumined master, the great siddha rarely used to impart or teach any thing rarely, but when he used to give discourse on Guru, spirituality people used to listen in rapt attention.This illumined siddha has taken mahasamadhi in 1919 approx at place called shirdi, now this a famous place of pilgrimage.It is near Nashik city of state of Maharashtra.If you are in mumbai you can reach to this plcae via Nashik.Take his blessings whenever you come to this spiritual land.I had gone to shirdi two times.My 2 years son always used to tell me mama i want to goto shirdi, then i took him and after that he has not repeated this desire.All his life is recorded in Sai Charita.My own son is a blessing of Goddess Durga and sai baba of shirdi.Further going to shirdi i have gone via tryambhakeshbar.This place has one of the jyotirlingas of shiva and on top of nearby hill there is udgam (souce) of Godavari , it is called gupta ganga, near that there is place where gautam rishi had done hard tapasya , next to this there is cave where great yogi bhairavnath has done tapsya.In this place also samadhi of Nath yogi Eknath is there.It will be a truly enlighting experience to visit these places.Further in Nasik i have seen a place called panchvati where lord ram and mata sita have stayed.It is a narrow cave now made permanent by concrete.In addition few ancient temples are around this place which should be visited.

Now about Swami Nityananda this siddha purusha has taken mahasamadhi in Place called Ganeshpuri which is of great spiritual importane.If you want to read about his life you can refer this site www.bhagwanNityanand.org. His life is an example, a biography which true followers of yoga and vedas would love to read again and again.He has said that in ganeshpuri, Sage vashistha (Lord Ramas Guru), Sage Sandipani(Lords Krishnas Guru), sage vishvamitra have done severe austereties and tapasya.There is a jivant samadhi of Sage agatsya husband of Sati Anusuya and lord dattatreyas father .Sati anushuya was a great pati vrata(devoted to husband) women and she herself was realised soul.The spiritual vibrations of these Great sages are very strong here which makes this place pious.Please do visit these places and seek there blessings in your spiritual journey.Important Excerpts pertaining to this i am pasting here for your knowledge:
Ganeshpuri is on the bank of the river Teja. There are several hot springs on the banks of this river. The water in these springs is very hot. Some of them have been named after various gods and are considered to have curative powers. On the bank of this river is a small Shiva temple called Sati Anasuya Mandir. This temple is dedicated to Mother Anasuya, the mother of Lord Dattatreya. Under this temple is the tomb of Atreya Rishi, the father of Lord Dattatreya. There is also a hot spring in front of this temple. Two of these springs are called Agni (Fire), Surya (Sun). They are so hot that if you dip a bag of rice in them, it cooks in few minutes.

There was civil engineer named Bhagwan Mistry. He was a devotee of Bhagawan Nityananda. I remember him. He was a short man who wore white pajamas, a white shirt that was long enough to reach his thighs and a black cap. Under the instruction of Bade Baba, he used to do most of the civil work in and around Ganeshpuri. One day the people of village decided to restore the SatiAnasuyaTemple. Bhagwan Mistry was appointed to do make the repairs. While digging around the Shiva Linga a large snake came out of the hole that was being dug. It was very frightening. Suddenly the temple was filled with an aroma that was coming from this hole.

Several people ran to Vaikuntha Ashram and narrated this incident. Bhagawan Nityananda admonished them asking who had told them to disturb the sanctity of the temple. Baba said "Below the Shiva Linga is the Jeevantha Samadhi (live burial) of Atreya Rishi. It is a very powerful place. Do not disturb anything. Just close the hole and cement it."

Near Ganeshpuri is a place called Sand. At one time this place was a jungle. At the foot of a hill there is a small ShivaTemple. At the temple there is flat stone with a foot print which is believed to be that of Sandipani Rishi. Sandipani Rishi was Lord Krishna's Guru and it was here that he performed his tapasya. Hence this place is called Sand which must be short for Sandipani, its original name after this Rishi. Some people visiting this place used to lose their sanity. Therefore nobody ventured to go there. Maybe the spiritual vibrations of Sandipani Rishi were so strong that they left most people's minds in disarray.
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Some Mantras of Atharva veda

Dear friends,

some mantras of atharva veda on God.Further in the above post i have erroneously mentioned Sage Agatsya as sati anusuyas husband, sage Atrior atreya is Sati anusuyas husband.

ATHARVAVEDA KAND 8, SUKTA 9, MANTRA 2-

"YO AKRANDAYATSALILAM MAHITVA YONIM KRITVA TRIBHUJAM SHYANAHA,
VATSAHO KAAMDUGHO VIRAAJAHA SA GUHA CHAKRE TANVAHA PARAACHAIHI"

Atharvaveda mantra 8/9/2 beautifully describes some of the unlimited qualities of God. Therefore we must worship the God whose glory and greatness has been described by God Himself in Vedas. It will be a self-made worship against Vedas if we worship the God made and assumed by anyone and whose qualities do not tally with Vedas. Mantra states that God is the one who through His great, unparallel, divine power makes the calm/dead/in active prakriti active. The non-alive said prakriti thus seems to roar like a lion, etc.

Then only the prakriti gets ready for the process of creation. Hence, the alive power of God works in the non-alive prakriti to begin the creation of universe. That is why, God is called Nimit-Upadan karann(reason for creation) of the universe.

Further mantra states that the three qualities/gunnas(raj, tam, satva) of prakriti are like its three arms. God as if makes the prakriti, the rest-house and sleeps therein. The underlying meaning of the statement is that once the final destruction of the universe (Mahapralaya) has been brought about then nothing remains except God, prakriti and jeevatmas in unconscious state(except the liberated souls who witness the process of creation). Now therefore the silent period between two creations may be presumed as if God has made prakriti the rest house in which he sleeps.

Mantra also states that God is like the ideal son who fulfills all needs, desires and just demands of His parents. He provides the souls with bodies and entire universe for their utilization. He gives everything to human-beings for survival. Therefore we must worship the God who creates human bodies for souls to live in.

Mantra highlights another greatest quality of God that God only associates and unites human-beings to divine Vedas knowledge to attain salvation.

At last the mantra states that aspirants should strive to know the God harbouring such great qualities through tapasya. As per Vedas tapasya(chastity) means performing yajyen, donating to learned and deserving, controlling five senses, perceptions, observing non-violence, listening Vedas preach from learned and to adopt the teachings of Vedas in conduct.
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The Meaning of Gayatri Mantra Encompasses the Teachings of All Religions

1. Hindu: God is the eternal source of life-force; Supreme embodiment of unalloyed bliss and Almighty destroyer of all worries and vices. Meditate upon the preeminent radiance of His pious inspiring power that will enlighten our intellect and motivate it towards the righteous path of elevation. (Rigveda 3|62|10; Yajurveda 36| 3; Samveda 1462)

2. Jew: ‘O’ Jehova (God) Guide me on the path of religion (righteousness); Show me Thou way which is straight, noble and perfect. (Old Testament-Prayers 5|

3. Shinto: ‘O’ Lord! Our eyes might see indecent things and vices, but our hearts (inner minds) should be free from all evils and impurities. Our ears might hear what is immoral and profane, but our hearts should not perceive anything unholy or wrong. (Japanese Preaching)

4. Parsi: That Supreme Master (Ahurmazda – God) is the Supreme King because of His pure intelligence and truth. Executing altruist deeds in His name makes us beloved of God. (Avesta 27|13)

5. Dao (Taoism): Dao (the Supreme-Self: God) is beyond all perceptions and thoughts. Righteous conduct as per His disciplines is an ideal religion. (Dao Treatise)

6. Jainism: Revering salutations to all the Arhantas, the Siddhas, the Acharyas, and the Upadhyays (all of whom are enlightened masters). Revering salutations to all the saintly beings. (Invocation Prayer)

7. Buddhism: (For ultimate peace and joy) Surrender to buddha – the enlightened awareness; Surrender to dhamma – the inner righteousness; Surrender to Sangha – the collective consciousness. (Diksha Mantra | Trisharanam)

8. Confucius: Must I behave not what I like others behave not. (Notable Quotes)

9. Christianity: ‘O’ Father! Please do not put us under test; Save us from all sins and evils. All the infinite power, noble prosperity and greatness is eternally Thine. (New Testament ‘Matte’ 6|13)

10. Islam: ‘Ya Allah!’ We pray to you only and need Thou help alone. Show us the righteous path – the path of those who are blessed with Thou light and grace, and not the (wrong) path of those who are unholy and worthy of Thy punishment. (Quran Sura: Al-Phatiha)

11. Sikh: “Omkar” (God) is one. Thy name is the ultimate Truth. HE is the creator of Nature, HE is Almighty, absolutely bright and brave. HE could be known only by the blessings of a noble Guru (enlightened divine intellect). (Guru Granth Sahib – Japujee)

12. Bhahai: ‘O’ Lord! Refresh and gladden my spirit. Purify my heart. Illumine my powers. I lay all my affairs in thy hand. Thou art my Guide and my Refuge. I will no longer be sorrowful and grieved; I will be a happy and joyful being. ‘O’ God! I will not longer be full of anxiety, nor will I let trouble harass me. I will not dwell on the unpleasant things of life. ‘O’ God! Thou are more friend to me than I am to myself. I dedicate myself to thee O Lord. (Abdu’l-Baha in “The secret of divine civilization”)

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Dear friends
hello,
by now you must have an little insight into Vedas.The knowledge of Vedas is called aporeshaya means it is not created by any body, nobody has written it. All the seers have clearly written that it is of divine origin.Till treta yuga i.e pre mahabharat war this knowledge and knowledge of Yoga was imparted in gurukuls till the age of 25 to all the disciples.All the students under the seers used to follow vow of brahmacharya.And after that they used to chose the ashrams of there choice.Ladies/girls also used to study vedas do yogas and realise god. In Vedas there are nearly 30 Rishikaswho were mantradrishta.To arrive at any point or to conclude truth there used to be shastrath i.e debate where scohalrs used to put their points.One such famous debate is between Gargi Guru of Sita mata and King janak and rishi Yagavallak.The practise of astanga yoga and preach of vedas never go waste.When you follow both you accumulate good karmas as we all have our duty towards God.In your next birth You will continue from where you have left.Further knowledge of vedas is called Brahama vidya, Brahma means almighty God.This knowledge is never destroyed as said by gyanis.The knowledge of Yoga is self contained in Vedas.In spite of distortions/changes you can always learn it in the purest form by the Knower of Vedas.Further i would like to mention there is one and only one yoga i.e Astanga yoga unlike so many forms available today i.e Power yoga, christian yoga .... We under the three gunas of prakriti commit such mistakes of monopolising yoga which is a divine knowledge for the benefit of human race.The seers till date has not modified it.The preach of vedas purifies your senses and makes you acquainted with true nature of soul , further it gives other worldly knowledge like astrology, mathematics etc.All the upnishads, even the preach of Bhagwad Gita is based on Vedas .Coupled with this the knowledge of Yoga step by step annihilate your Karmas accumulated over no of births.At the satage of nirvikalp samadhi when you realise god you are liberated.
So be sincere in your practice of yoga and if possible gain the true Knowledge of Vedas.However to get the real knowledge of vedas is difficult outside india.I find even difficult in india.The authentic commentries are of Swami Dayanand Saraswati but it is in Hindi, he was a realised yogi and knower of yogas, you can get it in Arya Samaj.However read Gita, the commentry close to the hindi versions are by Swami AC Bhalkivedata Prabhupad.B'cos at times it is difficult to translate everything in english as some words of Sanskrit have deeper meanings.Personally i have a copy of Gita written by Saint Gyaneshwar, he wrote gita some where in 1400 AD when he was 15 years old.He took mahasamadhi at the age of 21.With the hard practice of yoga, its yama, niyam and meditation we can realise God.Further we require devotion(Bhakti),Knowledge(Gyan) and prayer.While meditation repeat gayatri mantra.This will help you a lot.In addition to all this discharge your duties towarde spouse, children and parents dedicatedly.All the seers were married, while discharging all the duties they used to follow brahmacharya, untill you want to be a naishtik brahmachari.
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Five alive Gods

As per Vedas there are only five alive devas (GOD) Mother, Father, Guru or Acharya, Athithi(Guest) and Almighty God.

Dear friends do yoga, if possible read the Vedas and keep time for sadhna(Yoga) in addition look after your parents in old age and treat them with respect and love. We Hindus in particular says the first God of a child is mother. Even one can realize God by worshipping parents. You gain considerable merit by treating your parents with love respect and looking after them in old age. If we talk of India,since time immemorial there is no concept of Old age home, because we are expected to look after our elders as directed by Vedas and upnishads. However in present day India this tradition seems to be breaking, which is not good for society. Vedas only support the worship one formless God .At present in India Hindus go to various temples of various Devas ie (GOD), however they worship the one and only one Almighty god realized by that great Sage/soul for Example Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Lord Hanuman, Lord Ganesha, Shiva, Vishnu all of them were well versed with Vedas and were astanga yogis. All these great souls have realized god in their bodily temple. All these great souls have there own Gurus.
An excerpt from Gurukripa Yoga by Great Yogi Swami Nityananda will be useful for you all in respect of worshipping parents as Gods :

One of the first steps to becoming a Disciple on the spiritual path is to make peace with your own parents. When we say "make peace," we mean to be at piece with yourself first, and then to attempt to make and keep the peace with others. Some of us have parents who have abused us. Others have parents who are wonderful, loving, kind and nurturing. Still others have parents who are a combination of both. Our experience of our parents is due to our own Karma. We choose our parents. We choose the ones we are born through, based on our past Karma, our past way of thinking and behaving.

So, cultivate Love and Compassion for your parents, even if it means that you have to establish certain boundaries for relating with them, so that you can be Compassionate towards yourself also. This is very important to the process of becoming a Student of Yoga. Love those who brought you into this world. If you can't do that, how will you ever be able to follow the instruction of the Master? The first Acharya in life is your mother who bore you for nine months in her womb and brought you into this world. For this reason, She is called the first Guru. Without her grace this life is a waste. Mother gives the soul an opportunity to wash off its Karma and attain Liberation. Our obligation to her can never be repaid and we remain eternally grateful to our mothers, regardless of present interaction or lack thereof. Whenever possible, we should strive to keep our mothers happy and contented. Using the means available to us, we should look after her in her old age just as she has taken care of us when we were small babes. When we are compassionate towards our mothers, we gain spiritual merit. It is this spiritual merit (which is our own virtuous behavior) that makes us eligible for the Grace of the Guru, who leads us to the ultimate goal of all individual souls.

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Old 08-08-2007, 10:33 PM   #12
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Difference between buddhi(intellect),Mann and Aatma (Soul)

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there is lot of difference between buddhi(intellect), mann (i dont know how to define it in english) and aatma (soul).The soul is the dweller inside the live body , then it is called jeevatma.It is soul through five senses enjoys the pleasures.Mann is called chitt also.Through intellect i.e buddhi we get the power to understand things and differentiate in a live body which is called Jiva-atma.To explain the diffence Rig Ved mandal 10 sukta 129 is essential. But in short one should understand about alive and non-alive matters. There are three matters in the universe. Almighty God and souls are alive. And prakriti is non-alive. It is stated in the said Rig Veda mantra 1 that when the previous universe had been destroyed and new one did not create then there was nothing to see. God, souls and prakriti was there, but in unseen stage. The sun, moon, sky, air, water, life, bodies of human beings, animals or birds, i.e., whole universe, was not there. Because the same had been destroyed which is called pralaya. Destruction means the whole articles of the universe were merged in prakriti. Prakriti has three qualities (gunas), raj, tam and satv guna. When these three qualities does not work then this stage is called prakriti.

So after final destruction (pralaya) God starts creation from prakriti i.e., the power of God works in prakriti and the whole world is created. The first creation comes out in the shape of MEHAT i.e., Buddhi. Then from Buddhi Ahankar(Ego/pride) and from Ahankar mann and chitta. From chitta panch tan matra and then panch mahabhoot i.e., prithvi (earth), Vaayu (air), jal (water), agni (fire), and akash (space) and from these five mahabhoots sun, moon, human bodies and other bodies etc., etc., etc., i.e., whole articles of world. Because prakriti is non-alive so the whole articles of the world is also non-alive. The bodies of man and woman and others were like statue because it is unsexual creation then the alive soul enters the body according to previous karmas (i.e., in the body of man, woman or animal or birds under the unchanged system of God).

We are soul and not body. Souls are immortal whereas all bodies are destroyed. Soul is atma. So this is the difference. But other differences are also there being several qualities of souls. When we sit in car and we drive the car and the car goes to our destination similarly we (soul) reside in the body and do every deed with the help of mann, Buddhi i.e., whole body. If the soul has to see then it will see through eye not himself, similarly to listen, to taste etc. So when soul has to think over any subject then soul takes help of Buddhi and mann.. because alone soul can do nothing. So it is a difference of thought of soul (atma), mann and Buddhi. But this is not an easy task to understand this philosophy due to lack of preach of Vedas/Shastras from a learned spiritual master.

Dear friends this pious knowledge which i am sharing with you all is by the grace of GOD and my revered Guru.We all are joined by one single step yoga.This knowledge will help you in better understanding of yoga.Certainly yoga and knowledge of vedas awaken your mind, soul and body.By steadfast practice of yoga and devotion to god while fulfilling your duties to nation, society,family slowly - slowly your illusion i.e the bond of maya will be broken.People who have been doing yoga for more than 5- six years steadfastly can understand this and co-relate it better.

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Old 08-12-2007, 10:42 PM   #13
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Lord Dattatreya and his guru nature - part i

Lord Dattatreya was son of sage atri and sati anusuya.Lord dattreyas life teaches us how nature can be your guru .I am writing this for benefit of all , that we can get spiritual knowledge by observing nature too which is purest and always follows universal laws, sun rises in time, sun sets in time etc.

Once, while he was roaming happily in a forest, he met King Yadu, who, on seeing Dattatreya so happy, asked him the secret of his happiness and the name of his Guru.
Dattatreya said, “The Self alone is my Guru. Yet, I have learnt wisdom from twenty-four other individuals and objects. So they, too, are also my Gurus.”Dattatreya then mentioned the names of his twenty-four Gurus and spoke of the wisdom that he had learnt from each as follows:
“The names of my twenty-four Gurus are earth, water, fire, sky, moon, sun, pigeon, python, ocean, moth, honey-gatherers (black bee), bees, elephant, deer, fish, the dancing-girl Pingala, raven, child, maiden, serpent, arrow-maker, spider and beetle.

1. I learnt patience and doing good to others from the earth.
2. From water, I learnt the quality of purity.
3. I learnt from air to be without attachment though I move with many people in this world.
4. From fire I learnt to glow with the splendour of Self-knowledge and austerity.
5. I learnt from the sky that the Self is all-pervading and yet it has no contact with any object.
6. I learnt from the moon that the Self is always perfect and changeless and it is only the limiting adjuncts that cast shadows over it.
7. Just as a sun reflected in various pots of water appears as so many different reflections, so also Brahman appears different because of the bodies caused by the reflection through the mind. This is the lesson I have learnt from the sun.
8. I once saw a pair of pigeons with their young birds. A fowler spread a net and caught the young birds. The mother pigeon was very much attached to her children. She fell into the net and was caught. From this I have learnt that attachment is the root cause of earthly bondage.
9. The python does not move about for its food. It remains contented with whatever it gets, lying in one place. From this I learnt to be unmindful of food and to be contented with whatever I get to eat.
10. Just as the ocean remains unmoved, even though hundreds of rivers flow into it, so also the wise man should remain unmoved among all the various sorts of temptations, difficulties and troubles.




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Lord dattatreya part -ii

Dear friends his rest of teachings which he gained from nature are as follows

11. To control the sense of sight and to fix the mind on the Self, is the lesson I learnt from the moth.
12. I take a little food from one house and a little from another house and thus appease my hunger. I am not a burden on the householder. This I learnt from the black bee which gathers honey from various flowers.
13. Bees collect honey with great trouble, but a hunter comes along and takes the honey away easily. From this I learnt that it is useless to hoard things.
14. The male elephant, blinded by lust, falls into a pit covered with grass, even at the sight of a female elephant. Therefore, one should destroy lust.
15. The deer is enticed and trapped by the hunter through its love of music. Therefore, one should never listen to lewd songs.
16. Just as a fish that is covetous of food falls an easy victim to the bait, so also the man who is greedy for food loses his independence and easily gets ruined.
17. There was a dancing girl named Pingala. Being tired of looking for customers, one night she became hopeless. She had to be contented with what traffic she had that day and retired to a sound sleep. I learnt from this fallen woman the lesson that the abandonment of hope leads to contentment.
18. A raven picked up a piece of flesh. It was pursued and beaten by other birds. It dropped the piece of flesh and attained peace and rest. From this I learnt that a man in the world undergoes all sorts of troubles and miseries when he runs after sensual pleasures and that he becomes as happy as the bird when he abandons them.
19. The child who sucks milk is free from all cares, worries and anxieties, and is always cheerful. I learnt the virtue of cheerfulness from the child.
20. The maiden was husking paddy. Her bangles made much noise and there were visitors from her husband’s house. To silence the bangles, she removed them, one by one. Even when there were just two, they produced some noise. When she had only one, it did not make any noise, and she was happy. I learnt from the maiden that living among many would create discord, disturbance, dispute and quarrel. Even among two there might be unnecessary words or strife. The ascetic or the Sannyasin should remain alone in solitude.21. A serpent does not build its own hole. It dwells in the holes dug out by others. Even so, an ascetic should not build a home for himself. He should live in a temple or a cave built by others.
22. I learnt from the arrow-maker the quality of intense concentration of mind.
23. The spider pours out of its mouth long threads and weaves them into cobwebs. Then it gets itself entangled in the net of its own making. Even so, man makes a net of his own ideas and gets entangled in it. The wise man should, therefore, abandon all worldly thoughts and think of Brahman only.
24. The beetle catches hold of a worm, puts it in its nest and gives it a sting. The poor worm, always fearing the return of the beetle and sting, and thinking constantly of the beetle, becomes a beetle itself. I learnt from the beetle and the worm to turn myself into the Self by contemplating constantly on It; thus I gave up all attachment to the body and attained liberation.”The king was highly impressed by listening to these enlightening words of Lord Dattatreya. He abandoned the world and practised constant meditation on the Self.
Dattatreya was absolutely free from intolerance or prejudice of any kind. He learnt wisdom from whatever source it came. All seekers after wisdom should follow the example of Dattatreya.
On Dattatreya Jayanthi, get up at Brahmamuhurta and meditate. Fast and pray throughout the day. Do not mix with anybody. Live in total seclusion. Forget the body. Identify yourself with the blissful Self. Study Dattatreya’s glorious works, namely, the Avadhuta Gita and the Jivanmukta Gita. Worship Lord Dattatreya’s (or, your own Guru’s) form. Take wholesome resolves that you will follow the great teachings of Lord Dattatreya. You will realise the Self very soon


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Old 08-19-2007, 11:09 PM   #15
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Importance of Alms giving

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On the above two post i have mentioned about lord dattatreya, he was a great yogi a devapurush.Lord dattatreya signifies as follows "Lord Dattatreya came as the Supreme Philosopher (Avadhoota) so that the true meaning and purpose of Sacrifice (Tyaaga) may be revealed to mankind. Atri, His father, symbolizes penance (tapas) as described in the scriptures, and Anasooya represents freedom from jealousy. When penance and non-jealous nature unite in a single person, the highest truth emerges as Lord Dattatreya. As ultimate self-sacrifice, the Supreme God gave Himself as Datta to Atri and Anasooya. Hence, "Datta" means not only "that which is given", but also as the ideal of "giving" without desire for reward, i.e. selfless giving. The whole life of Dattatreya shows us that this "giving" selflessly is the true renunciation/sacrifice. The significance of this sacrifice is stated in the Dattatreya Upanishad where the Lord says, "Not by action, not by progeny, nor even by self, but by renunciation (tyaaga) alone is immortality attained. "Real renunciation is the giving up of "I" and mine, not the mere abandoning of duties. Living a selfless life require giving up one's ego. That is what Lord Dattatreya describes as true sacrifice."
Since time memorial there is a tradition of alms giving in india. Ascetics never cook there food they beg it. It signifies that they do not belong to any body, they have no ego, for food and everything they depend on one and only one Provider the Supreme truth GOd.All the saints including Adi shankara, Sai Baba of shirdi, Swami Nityananda, Lord swaminarain have insisted on giving alms to every seeker who comes to your door step.This way you ward of your bad karma and gain spiritual merit.ascetics unlike today never used to accumulate wealth.Further anybody who comes to your house is God i.e athiti (one who comes without telling date) as per Vedas five alive Gods i have earlier told.Great siddha Sai baba of sahirdi everyday used to beg alms from five houses so that people should not forget to give daan (donation, it has a deep spiritual meaning unlike donation).In this regard i will tell you how lord dattateya once again took birth.
A Brahmin couple Appala Raju Sharma and Sumathi, were devotees of Lord Datta.They had many children of whom only two survived. One was lame and the other was blind. They worshipped Lord Datta and never failed to offer food to mendicants and monks. They looked uponon all such as they very forms of Lord Datta. One day, they were performing the annual ceremony in their house and many Brahmins were invited as guests for thefeast. Tradition holds that none should eat on that day before these guests partake their food.
At that time Lord Dattatreya appeared at their threshold in the form of a renunciate sadhu (saint), bearing the staff and the water-vessel (Kamandalu) and asked for food. The housewife, with immense faith that the visitor was none other than the Lord to whom the whole annual ceremony was being offered, gave Him food even before the Brahmin guests were fed!
Her faith touched the Lord's heart and He at once granted her a vision of this true form. His glorious form had three heads, clad in a tiger's skin and his body besmeared with sacred ash (vibhuti), he looked like a silver mountain in moonlight.
The blessed housewife drank the divine glory of the Lord's from and felt that the highest object of her birth was fulfilled. The Lord said, "Mother, I am pleased with your devotion. Even before you fed the Brahmin guests, you have given me food with the full faith that this is the Lord in the guise of a holy mendicant. Now, ask me for anything you wish and it shall be granted". The sight blessed her eyes and now her ears were sanctified by His sweet words. "Lord", she said, "Lord! You addressed me as mother, please let your word be turned into reality"
Lord replied Tathastu (so be it) and disappeared. Lord Dattatreya, in order to bless his devotees and the righteous ones, wanders about in the guise of a random guest at the lunch hour. That's why it is said that a random guest has to be treated as the very embodiment of Lord Dattaterya. Then Sumathi told her husaband of the Divine vision the Lord had bestowed on her and of his granting her wish for a divine son. Not long after, Sumathi conceived and delivered a male child at the proper time. She gave birth to one who is indeed birth-less.
There was no birth in the normal sense, the Lord just manifested Himself as a child in this house. As the child has all the Divine features with celestial radiance, he was fittingly named as Sripaad.This was the first incarnation of Lord Dattatreya.He was known as sri pad shri vallabh.Again he incarnated in to human form as shri narsimha saraswati an a promise to a lady who was about to commit suicide , as he was teased by villagers as a mother of deaf and dumb son, then he was passing and he told her by commiting suicide you will commit larger sin, rather pray to lord shiva and live with your karmas of this birth.


Dear friends still there are many places in india where these siddhas have promised to partake food to there devotees and they come in any form even animal too to take food.One such place is gangapur where lord dattatreya still comes and has promised to take lunch.If you read life of sai baba of shirdi and Swami nityanand you will understand better.
Along with your sadhana feed a hungry person and help poor make it a practice, place food for birds and animals.The importance of all these traditions now i have under stood and sharing with you.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:20 PM   #16
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Sorrows of Human Life

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Modern science has estimated to the age of earth to be 2 billions old.As per vedas the age of present creation i.e earth is is one Arab 96 crore 8 lakhs 53 thousands and 2 years.This is 7th Manvantar and 28 Chaturyugi and the present Kaliyug has passed its time of 5002 years. Bhagwat Geeta shlok 8/17 also says about this fact. Manu Smriti shloka 1/64 to 1/80 also supports this fact.Till the period of mahabharat the kings , its subjects used to follow sanatan Dharma or vedic dharma.Entire earth was ruled by one chakravarti king.The mahabharat war was a great disaster for humanity.Post this war due to huge bloodshed, lot of human lives was lost all the kings of earth had participated in this great war.After this Lord Krishna too departed and kaliyug started.People immersed in there sorrows forgot to contact seers and rishis for knowledge of vedas and slowly-2 groped in darkness and ignorance. slowly due to wrong interpretation of vedas lot of superstitions seeped in. However as always banaras or Kashi, which is the worlds oldest city continue to be seat of learning for vedas.Only brahmins traditionally had passed this knowledge from generations to generations.If you have to gain knowledge you have to go to your Guru, b'cos you require him he doesnot require.So slowly knowledges of vedas and yogas rested with people or ashrams who were sincere seeker of spirtrual truth and ascetics/monks.In between great yogis took birth to establish dharma and show righteois path to the people like Gautam Buddha, adi shankara, madhvacharay, Ramanuj, Lord Cahitanaya, Lord bhairav, Lord Swaminarayana, Swami ramakrishna, Vivekananda, ramtirth, Rammna Maharishi, Swami Nityanand, Sai baba etc.Then came to india Arabs who destroyed temples, looted valuables, converted peoples and destroyed worlds first universities like Takshila,Nalanda and Vikram shila were destroyed valuable manuscripts with ancient knowledges were burnt along with monks and seers.At that time Indian science , philosophy , astronomy cosmology was quite advanced.The dark age of india started then came french, potrugese and britishers.When britishers had established rule in india great siddhas took rebirth to suffering masses to show them the dharma, many britishers have met with these yogis to understand the highest truth.With the representation of Swami vivekananda in world congress of religion the ancient teachings of yoga, vedas and spiriytual practices came to limelight and further swami ramtirtha, swami paramhansa yogananda and many more yogis with divine will reached west to spread the light of east.Today lot more people are following yoga in search of physical fitness and spiritual truth.
We human beings (souls) suffer plenty of soorrows as per the deeds we commit in our various births.These can be classified as
1.Bodily sorrows like disesases(cancer, aids etc), mental tensions, depressions etc which give pain to our physical body
2.Godly i.e Daivik sorrows which happen due to non alive gods example excess rain, drought, earthquake,landslide, sotrms, flood etc.
3.Physical or Bhautik sorrows - Which happens to human beings by other living beings like snake bite, Lion, crocodile etc.
Kapil Rishi in in Sankhaya Shastra , 6th chapter sutra 29 has said all the three sorrows can be killed by Knowledge of vedas, dhyan Dharana (yoga and meditation) and renounciation(vairaygya).Vedas and shastras say that the aim of human being should be to destroy these sorrows by the hard practice of astanga yoga as described in vedas , ramayana,, gita and upnishads along with worldly success.
If you think then you will agree that present day mankind is sufferring from all the three sorrows.Deadly diseases like cancer, aids, hypertension, heart problems etc are troubling us.Either there is excess rain or drought, storms, flood, there deaths due attachk by animals, environmental problems.Dear friends in ancient india till mahabharat period people were happy and free from all these sorrows as they were followers of vedas and yoga in all deeds.Kings used to rule kingdom based on vedic and yogic knowledge.They had Great Mantra drishta rishis to guide them who were appointed as raj Rishis for eg. Lord Ramas Guru was his Raj Rishi Vashishtha who used to advice him in all the matters.Today every nation is suffering if not materially then in some other form , terrorism, Massacre, Genocide, killing of innocent people, poverty, border disputes, war ravages, fight amongst religion etc.Now what is the solution?

Dear friends after reading lives of many yogis and little knowledge of scriptures i have understood that we should do good deeds, curb evil tendencies, read Vedas and do yoga.The yoga which is actually a spiritual practice, sadhna changes person not only physically but mentally.This along with knowledge of vedas is the only proven path to realise the self .It helps you in controlling your indriyas.Further Hom/havan or yajna as described in vedas helps you spiritually further helps in maintaining ecological balance and environment. On yagya or yajna i will try to write some thing for your benefit .Dear friends on the advice of my guru i have started doing havan with ved mantras with my husband and 3 1/2 years old son. earlier i have never understood its importance but now i know which i will share with you all.

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Old 08-27-2007, 11:31 PM   #17
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Guru Kripa Yoga

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I have particularly like these excerpts on Guru by Swami nityanand, a siddha purusha, divinity in flesh.I am pasting it for all of you.I am currently reading sai charitra,. Both Shirdi sai baba and swami nityananda were divinity in flesh, highly realised siddhas. Always in communion with God.Read swami nityanandas excerpts on Guru and guru kripa yoga:

Gururkripa Yoga is that yoga in which the disciple relies on the Grace of the Guru or Acharya (which is God's Grace) to carry him/her to Liberation. The Shiva Sutras state "Gururupayah;" The Guru is the means. The Guru who has attained Self-realization is the only one who can help the aspirant acquire it. Gurukripa Yoga and Bhakti Yoga are one in the same because they both emphasize the process of drawing God's Grace to you through Selfless Service and complete Devotion/Surrender to the Acharya. In this way, over time, you learn to take complete refuge in God. Crossing the threshold to Liberation requires great strength and trust. But if you think you are simply going to walk across this threshold of your own volition, you are mistaken. You don't need strength and trust in yourself. You only need the strength and trust that comes from taking refuge in God and following God's will, since it is he who carries you across the threshold to Liberation.

For this reason, the Saints of the Gurukripa path all state that all the other forms of yoga (Jnana Yoga, Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Hatha Yoga) are contained in Gurukripa. Gurukripa Yoga is the Yoga of Bhagawan Nityananda. It is the Yoga of Supreme Love. For this reason, Baba referred to it as Raja Yoga, the yoga in which all the other yogas are contained.

Without the Grace of a Siddha, a Guru, you cannot realize God. You may be successful at reducing stress or even attaining states of relative happiness. But without the Guru, these will be fleeting at best. By reading scriptures and attending lectures you may be able to understand and express philosophy, like so many preachers that we encounter day-in and day-out. But you won't have a lasting experience of the philosophy that you are preaching. To become completely absorbed in God, to Liberate yourself from bondage in order to bask in the rays of total freedom from the ignorance of pain and pleasure, you must be guided by a Siddha (perfected being), until you are set on your own path. It is only by the Grace of such a Guru that you can undergo permanent spiritual transformation.

Mundane knowledge is not spiritual knowledge. It is not direct knowledge of God. Although mundane knowledge may help you advance in the activities of daily life, without the transformation brought about by direct contact with and service to the Acharya, these mundane activities will only serve to sink you deeper and deeper into the bondage of sense pleasures and worldly pleasures. And the bondage of this ignorance is simply a rehashing of so many of your past lives. To break the noose of this bondage, you need a Guru, until you are set on your own path.

Even the Devas and Devis (the gods and goddesses), when they take human form, have to undergo transformation by the Grace of a Guru to fulfill the purpose of their birth on this earth. For example, Lord Rama had the sage Vasistha as his Guru. Lord Krishna had Sandipani as his Guru. The Guru is the very reflection of God; nay she IS God.

The Guru appears to be an ordinary man or woman. He appears to behave like you and me. But, on close observation, when you have a direct experience of the Guru's grace, then you realize that the Guru is very different from us and other priests or monks we may meet. The Guru is often referred to as Mother. He is the infinite manifestation of Prem (unconditional love). Prem is not like the love you are familiar with, where needs and wants are bartered back and forth through petty infatuation and desire. Prem has no beginning or end. Prem has no reason for its existence and no motive either. It has no expectation. It is pure Love. The Guru is the embodiment of this Prem. He/she is the infinite manifestation of forgiveness (KShama) and the infinite manifestation of strength (Shakti). He is the destroyer of ignorance, the destroyer of sorrow (dukhaharini), the destroyer of emnity (vairharini), the destroyer of illusion (mayaharini or Shiva's maya) and the destroyer of sin (papanashini). The Guru is the cause of auspicious happenings (mangalkarani) and the giver of salvation (mokshadayani).

A Guru Is One Who Is Liberated

How do you recognize a Guru? Bhagawan Nityananda used to say, "When a person claims to be a Guru or Acharya, you should ask him "Can you show me God with Shanka (conch), Charka (discus) and Gadha (mace)?** Only if he can do that is he a Guru." Now what does this mean? It means only one who is a God-Realized man or woman can be Guru and the Guru alone can make you aware of God. The great Saint Swami Vivekananda once asked his Guru Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, "Have you seen God?" To this Ramakrishna replied, "Yes, but even more intensely than how I see you." Unless and until a person experiences God in this way, how can he lead you to God?

It is our Ego /I which doesnot allow us to surrender us to any one.A Guru requires total surrender.In future i will write on sai babas description of Gurus.

Do read Divine life of Shirdi Sai Baba as described in sai charitra and Swami Nityanand.

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Old 08-28-2007, 09:34 AM   #18
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there is lot of difference between buddhi(intellect), mann (i dont know how to define it in english) and aatma (soul).
mann- manas is usually translated as mind as far as I know. The seat of intellect or buddhi is the heart chakra. Mind/manas is related to ajna chakra. Please correct me if I am wrong.

This last post of Guru Kripa yoga is very comforting.

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Mann or Manas

mann is not actually mind.In hindi mann and manas are used as follows
My mann wants to eat mango's, mera man ho raha hai ki i should visit hill station(i want to visit a hill station).A mann is used for expressing desires but these desires are wishes like suddenly you feel like doing some thing.To express it exactly in english is difficult b'cos a mann is not a storong desire or an outcome of deep thinking or intellect.it is a casual instantaneous wish.

thanks hubert for replying

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Old 09-04-2007, 12:28 AM   #20
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Dharma

what is dharma ? Dharma is a sanskrit word which can be associated with righteousness , but dharma has a deep spiritual meaning.Every living organism/matter has an inherent underlying dharam as created by God.For eg the dharam of mango trree is to give mango trees, the cow gives milkand eats grass that is its natural dharma.Lion eats flesh it will not eat grass that is its dharma. similarly a soul has its dharma.
On dharm i would quote this beautiful explanation from the vedicresearch foundation :

"The word dharm is formed from the root word dhryan (dhryan dharne); it means such actions and such spiritual or religious practices that finally result in all-good for a soul. A general description of dharm is:

It means that such actions, thoughts and practices that promote physical and mental happiness in the world (abhyudaya) and ensure God realization (nishreyas) in the end, are called dharm.

There are two kinds of dharmas: (a) Apar dharm, or varnashram dharm, or seemit dharm, or general dharm, and (b) par dharm or bhagwat dharm.

apar dharm means good karmas with sattvic motivation where a person is devoted to God in a conventional manner, which means a general faith in all the forms of God. Such good karmas pacify the mind of the doer in the existing life, and in the next lifetime they create a good destiny which is called ‘abhyudaya’ that brings physical and mental well-being in a person’s life.

Apar dharm is the general dharm for all and is only a preliminary dharm, which is like the preparatory practice for entering into bhakti for those who cannot accept it in their life right away. Bhakti is above all the religious formalities, rituals and intellectual practices of meditation. In one sentence you can say that bhakti is the true ‘love’ for your soul-beloved God. It could be observed by any person of the world. It is universal; it is for every age; it is said and revealed by God Himself; and it is sanatan which means eternal. Thus, the dharm which is based on such bhakti, which is eternally established in bhakti, and which establishes bhakti for God as a universal religion of the world, is called Sanatan Dharm.

God is: “dharmadhishthan.” It means that the Sanatan (eternal) Dharm is established in God and resides in God as a Divine power. It is revealed by God through Brahma before the human civilization and is represented through the Vedas, Upnishads and the Puranas."



Every creation of God has its underlying dharma.As souls our dharma is to work hard, acquire knowledge both worldly and spiritual, fulfill duties towards parents,child,wife,nation etc., and aspire to realise God by the study of scripture and hard practice of Yoga.
Today the world is afflicted from lot of sorrows it is primarily becoz of lack of self realisation, ego/i, proving ones supremacy over others due to the illusion of Maya.We as souls has to think what is our dharma, is it sectarian violence, superirity complex, hatred or to promote peace, love and progress worldy taking care
of all the creation of God .So you as an individual soul relate what is your dharma and follow it.Dharma is always constructive never destructive.Like the mahabharat war was fought to establish Dharma.Dharma is truthfulness, peace, love, looking after lower species and fellow human beings and taking care of sufferings.Lord Rama in Valmiki ramayana is described as dharmanisht i.e one who always follow his dharma irrespective of situation.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:48 PM   #21
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Rigveda mantra 10/90/7

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Rigveda mantra for you all, the explanation is by my pujya gurudev Swami Ramswarup ji,


Rig Veda mantra 10/90/7

TAM YAJYAM BARHISHI PRAUKSHAN PURUSHAM JAATAMAGRATAHA.
TEN DEVA AYAJANT SADHYA RISHYASHCH YE.

"AGRATAHA JAATAM" famous since eternal times, "TAM" that "YAJYAM" adorable "PURUSHAM" Almighty God "BARHISHI" within heart "PRAUKSHAN" originates/makes him happy "CHA" and "TEN" by the God "DEVAHA" other learned of yoga philosophy i.e., Yogi "YE" who "SADHYAHA" the worship which is complete in all respects which results in realization of God (accomplished worship) "RISHYAHA" he who sees Ved mantras within him "AYAJANT" they do adhyatmik (spiritual) Yajyen.

Meaning & Idea: God is eternal. He is true. Nobody makes God. God is Swayambhu. i.e., neither He is made nor anything is made out of God. He was always in the past, is in Present and will ever remain in the future after final destruction too.

The rishis originate God within their hearts and make Him happy and having the aim of God, the other learned persons of Vedas i.e., Yogi who have done accomplished worship of God i.e., the worship which is complete in all respects and resulting in realization of God and have attained the stage of seeing Ved mantras within them, they do adhyatmik Yajyen i.e., spiritual Yajyen.

Adhyatmik Yajyen means to follow the path of Vedas especially path of Samveda. In short the Vedas state to worship God by listening Vedas from a learned acharya, perform daily Yajyen/havan, name-jaap of God. Hard practice of Ashtang yoga philosophy etc.

In such a way, aspirant, at a stage becomes ascetic and knows Prakriti, soul and Almighty God. He attains Asampragyat Samadhi wherein he realizes God within him. The said worship is according to Vedas and Vedas are eternal knowledge which emanates direct from God. Therefore the present man-made worship does not tally with Vedas.


I hope explanation of veda mantras enlighten you and serve the purpose of understanding of yoga philosophy.

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Veda yoga and science

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One spiritual seeker has posed a following question to my Guru, i would like to share this question and my gurus reply to his querry, this is useful for all soul who are in search of Truth:

Question: Scientists have common knowledge that pretty much the right side of the human brain gets utilized the most, the left side does very little if nothing at all. Is there any yoga practise or anything mentioned in the Vedas, that we can use to train ourselves to use both sides of the brain thereby giving us a higher level of intelligence and therefore a better understanding of God?
Swami Ramswarup: Actually only some important cells of brain work daily of a normal person. When an aspirant does Yajyen and ashtang yoga practice then a day comes when his several cells of brain and even body are awakened and at this stage the whole mind starts working. In yog shastra, the said stage of a Yogi is stated, "RITAMBHARA TATRA PRAGYA" i.e., the mind of a Yogi at this stage has attained truth.

"TAJJAHA SANSKAROANYASANSKARPRATIBANDHEE" i.e., the stage of such a Yogi is not now ordinary but is changed totally. He is no more considered ordinary man.

dear friends i hope now you understand that spirituality, vedas and yoga is science not myth.I hope now you understand that how a yogi brings back life to a person, performs miracle in the true light of patanjali yoga sutras and vedas.Yoga philosophy stems from vedas.Now you can very well understand Lord Rama, krishna, Jesus and other great yogis and siddha purush.
God manifests in a yogi after realisation so these realised one are above petty diferrences of cast, creed, religion and nationality and they do not have lust, i/ego, there 5 indriyan and perception are controlled

In this regard i would quote words of lord swami narayan, this great soul manifested in earth for welfare of ignorant masses in 1650's in India

"He reveals: 'From the day of my birth to
this day, never has an evil thought of
wealth or woman ever crossed my mind,
neither in my dream nor waking state.

Revealing the equanimity of His mind, He
says: 'To me, the higher and lower
pleasures of the world are one and
equal; a king and a beggar are equal;
ruling over the throne of the three worlds
and begging with a bowl are equal;
being worshipped with flowers and
insulted with dirt are equal. Both honour
and dishonour are equal to me.'


His mind was always steady in His Atman.
He reveals: 'Even if externally, I may have
been involved in innumerable activities,
internally, when I introspect and look
within at my Atman, all my energies are
withdrawn into my Atman like the limbs of
a tortoise.
And there I experience the ultimate Bliss "


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Yajen /yagya or Hom as per vedas

Dear friends,
namaste to all

I had earlier said about yajen.In the ancient times, Yajya was given utmost importance and any aspirant who went to the learned to get Deeksha used to carry Samidha (a twig to be offered in pious fire of havan) in his hand. Prashnopnishad states that six Rishis including Satyakaam went to Piplad Rishi with a Samidha which is a clear indication that everybody must perform Yajyen. Whereas it is our bad luck that now the people go to present saints without samidha and even present saints tell against the Vedas and Yajyen. History also states that Sri Krishna Maharaj went to jungle along with Sudama to fetch samidha during his stay in Guru Sandipan's ashram.
God Himself declares in various mantras, for instance in Yajurveda mantra 1/2, "Vasoho Pavitramasi"i.e., Yajyen beholds the entire universe. Further, it spreads materials and spiritual purity and is the bestower of eternal happiness on the entire world. Hence, in the said mantra, the organizer and performer of Yajyen along with learned are advised never to give up Yajyen, in fact they should ask this knowledgeable question as to who orders us to perform true deed of Yajyen?
Yajurveda mantra1/6 gives the authentic reply to this question that "Tasmai Twa Bhunakti" i.e., God Himself orders all human-beings to perform this true, pious deed of Yajyen.
Hence Yajyen is supreme worship of God. It also purifies air, water, environment since the offerings put in the pious fire of Yajyen contains antiseptic, antibiotic, nutritive (energetic), fragrant materials that disintegrate into smaller molecules when put into fire and spread rapidly in the atmosphere thereby purifying it. In fact these molecules of ghee etc., are carried by sun rays and spread into atmosphere. When these molecules reach into upper layers of atmosphere, it has been proved scientifically that they play a vital role in causing timely rains which is a blessing to the farmers, animals and public at large. When, in India, Mumbai was, hit by plague then people from all sects and sections of society started performing havan on the advice of the scientists and were benefited to a large
extent.


French scientist Tri, has made commendable research in the pure smoke that emanates during the performance of Yajyen. On the analysis, he found that Yajyen is usually performed by burning twigs of mango tree that generate, "formaldehyde" gas on burning. This gas has the property to kill the germs and purify air and water. In fact this research
inspired the scientists to make the disinfectant, "Formaline" used widely in households in the form of harpic, lizol, phenyl etc.
Another scientist named Tautlik proved that the resins (seedless) like currants mixed with in the offerings made in pious fire of Yajyen are capable to kill the germs of typhoid even, when exposed to the smoke of Yajyen for half an hour daily. The effect of smoke of Yajyen is deadly on germs of smallpox, tuberculosis, cholera, when the offerings put in the fire contain jaggery, raw sugar (molasses) besides resins and currants. The small quality of carbon dioxide so produced is beneficial as it causes green house effect.
Shatpath Brahmin Granth 14/4/2-3/29 beautifully describes that, "Soul (Jeevatma) desired to have wife, to be get children, to have money and to perform Yajyen. Person harbouring such pious desires should not ask for more." The underlying meaning is that when person is blessed with living assets in the form of family and material assets like money etc., such assets are means to perform Yajyen. It is every one's duty to utilize these assets in performance of Yajyen. Due to lack of true knowledge of Vedas, ignorant person indulges in attachment, allurement, laziness, inactivity, sensuality, worldly pleasures etc. on possessing money and family and does not utilize these assets in the performance of Yajyen and adopts a conduct which is contradictory to the Vedic tenets and teachings of shastras. As a result, he never achieves eternal peace. In spite of possessing materials assets, he is never contended and wanders like a deer misted by mirage in desert and the lust grows for more. Hence, keeping in view the experienced and
authentic speech of Rishis, all must remain attached to pious deeds like Yajyen etc., on being blessed with family and other assets.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:57 AM   #24
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Yajen, agnihotra,homa,yagya

Dear friends,
On the above post i have mentioned about yajen as told by my Guru.
ANcient indians till mahabharat the india was vedic india.Post mahabharat the vedic knowledge was not lost but dwindled slowly in ashrams due to ignorance.Yajen itself is a science.In this kaliyug we are worried about health, environment,global warming, diseases,pollution,floods and many more things.If you can do yajen nothing like it not only you, as a soul , family but the entire universe will be benefitted by it.In Vedas and geeta best form of worship to god is Yajen and practice of Yoga.We should do yajen at sandhi kaal i.e transition times.Morning(when sun appears), evening(time when sets in) for the benefit of humanity, for spiritual benefit night is the best time.If a single person does havan entire humanity gets benefitted.You can do yajen with gayatri mantra.As many times you want as per time and space.There are special mantras with beautiful meanings which are also used.I do yajen as told by my guru with my husband,son in morning hours or evening before sun sets in.It purifies your mind,atmosphere and gives serenity to you.

further you can read about yajen/agnohotra and its vast benefits to humanity, environment at following sites:
Vedic Society

http://www.shivapuri.com/agnihotr.htm

AWGP - Gayatri And Yagna

Vedmandir :: www.vedmandir.com

may god bless us all

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The worth of a human body

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Human body is the only body amongst all the creations of God which can realise Self and god by the preach of Vedas and hard practice of Astanga Yoga.In the blessed soil of india many souls have achieved this ultimate aim of human life by preach of vedas and hard practice of Astanga yoga.I am pasting excerpts from Sai Chartra (Biography of sai baba of shirdi), the great siddha purush of Shirdi conveys the worth of human body in following stanjas:
The most effective and speedy way to gain our object is to approach a worthy Saint or Sage - Sadguru, who has himself attained God-vision. What cannot be achieved by hearing religious lectures and study of religious works, is easily obtained in the company of such worthy souls. Just as the sun alone gives light, which all the stars put together cannot do, so the Sad-Guru alone imparts spiritual wisdom which all the sacred books and sermons cannot infuse. His movements and simple talks give us 'silent' advice. The virtues of forgiveness, calmness, disinterestedness, charity, benevolence, control of mind and body, egolessness etc. are observed by the disciples as they are being practiced in such pure and holy company. This enlightens their minds and lifts them up spiritually. Sai Baba was such a Sage or Sad-Guru. Though He acted as a Fakir (mendicant), He was always engrossed in the Self. He always loved all beings in whom He saw God or Divinity. By pleasures He was not elated. He was not depressed by misfortunes. A king and a pauper were the same to Him. He, whose glance would turn a beggar into a king, used to beg His food from door to door in Shirdi, and let us now see how He did it.
In this wonderful universe, God has created billions (84 lacs according to Hindusastra calculation) of creatures or beings (including Gods, demigods, insects, beasts and men) inhabiting heaven, hell, earth, ocean, sky and other intermediate regions. Of these, those creatures or souls, whose merits preponderate, go to heaven and live there till they enjoy the fruits of their actions, and when this is done, they are cast down while those souls, whose sins or demerits preponderate, go down to hell, and suffer the consequences of their misdeeds for so long a time as they deserve. When their merits and demerits balance each other, they are born on earth as human beings, and are given a chance to work out their salvation. Ultimately when their merits and demerits both drop down (are got rid of) completely, they get their deliverance and become free. To put the matter in a nutshell, souls get their births or transmigrations according to their deeds and intelligence (development of their minds).

I hope we all who are practicing yoga be steadfast and achieve the highest aim of human body by devotion and following eternal wisdom

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Best Name of God is OM

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I was down with eye infection.The best name of God as described in Vedas is OM . I am pasting the different meanings of OM with respect to God and keeping in view Vedas as told by my Guru:

OM has three Hindi words. Aa,Uu and Ma. Aa is meant for Aakaar from which three names of God are built, Viraat, Agni and Vishwadi. From Uu= uukaar from which Hirnyagarbh, Vaayu and tejas names occurs and Ma = makaar from which Ishwar, Aditya and Praajyan aadi, holy names of God occurs. Rig ved mantra 1/164/ 46 says the God is one but His names are several. But here only the said names are given. Viraat means he who creates the universe. Therefore His name is Viraat.

Agni means he who is knowledgeable, omniscient, to be known and adorable. Therefore His name is Agni. Vishw means in whose the space, fire etc., i.e., all bhoots are entering or he who is in all these bhootas and is omnipresent. So His name is Vishw. Hirnyagarbh means in whose these sun, moon i.e., dyulok reside and originated i.e., why His name is Hirnyagarbh. Vaayu means by which the universe is held , gives lives and destroy and is the supreme power, that is why His name is Vaayu. Tej means who is a shape of light Himself, i.e., God does not take light from anywhere else. But gives light to sun, moon, stars etc., So the unbroken, unconstrcted/unproduced and eternal shape of light is Almighty God and not sun, moon, stars, candle or any lamp of the world or any light of the world. Because all these lights are broken one day, but not God. Ishwar means who and whose knowledge is always a never dying truth and who has unlimited pleasure or merriment in Him. Aditya means who can not be broken in to pieces and thus cannot be destroyed. So His name is Aditya. Praajyan means He who knows the every manner and behave of whole of the universe without misunderstandings. So His name is Praajyan.

I hope this will help us in understanding real spiritual knowdledge.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:30 AM   #27
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Brahma Gyan by Great saint/Siddha purush of Sirdi Sai baba - part I

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Namaste to all,

These excerpts from Sai Chartra on Great siddha purush sai baba of shirdi i am am putting for every body's contemplation. Its long do read it and try to understand the wisdom imparted in this :

These was a rich gentleman (unfortunately his name and whereabouts are not mentioned) who was very prosperous in his life. He had amassed a large quantity of wealth, houses, field and lands, and had many servants and dependents. When Baba's fame reached his ears, he said to a friend of his, that he was not in want of anything, and so he would go to Shirdi and ask Baba to give him Brahma-Jnana which, if he got, would certainly make him more happy. His friend dissuaded him, saying, "it is not easy to know Brahman, and especially so for an avaricious man like you, who is always engrossed in wealth, wife and children. Who will, in your quest of Brahma-Jnana, satisfy you that won't give away even a pice in charity?"
Not minding his friend's advice, the fellow engaged a return-journey tanga and came to Shirdi. He went to the Masjid, saw Sai Baba, fell at His Feet and said, "Baba, hearing that You show the Brahman to all who come over here without any delay, I have come here all the way from my distant place. I am much fatigued by the journey and if I get the Brahman from You, my troubles will be well-paid and rewarded." Baba then replied, "Oh, My dear friend, do not be anxious, I shall immediately show you the Brahman; all My dealings are in cash and never on credit. So many people come to Me, and ask for wealth, health, power, honour, position, cure of diseases and other temporal matters. Rare is the person, who comes here to Me and asks for Brahma-Jnana. There is no dearth of persons asking for wordly things, but as persons interested in spiritual matters are very rare, I think it a lucky and auspicious moment, when persons like you come and press Me for Brahma-Jnana. So I show to you with pleasure, the Brahman with all its accompaniments and complications."
Saying this, Baba started to show him the Brahman. He made him sit there and engaged him in some other talk or affair and thus made him forget his question for the time being. Then He called a boy and told him to go to one Nandu Marwari, and get from him a hand-loan of Rs. five. The boy left and returned immediately, saying that Nandu was absent and his house was locked. Then Baba asked him to go to Bala grocer and get from him, the said loan. This time also, the boy was unsuccessful. This experiment was repeated again twice or thrice, with the same result.
Sai Baba was, as we know, the living and moving Brahman Incarnate. Then, some one may ask - "Why did He want the paltry sum of five rupees, and why did He try hard to get it on loan? Really He did not want that sum at all. He must have been fully knowing, that Nandu and Bala were absent, and he seems to have adopted this procedure as a test for the seeker of Brahman. That gentleman had a roll or bundle of currency notes in his pocket, and if he was really earnest, he would not have sat quiet and be a mere onlooker, when Baba was frantically trying to get a paltry sum of Rs. five. He knew that Baba would keep His word and repay the debt, and that the sum wanted was insignificant. Still he could not make up his mind and advance the sum. Such a man wanted from Baba the greatest thing in the world, viz., the Brahma-Jnana! Any other man, who really loved Baba, would have at once given Rs. five, instead of being a mere onlooker. It was otherwise with this man. He advanced no money nor did he sit silent, but began to be impatient, as he was in a haste to return and implored Baba saying- "Oh Baba, please show me the Brahman soon." Baba replied - "Oh my dear friend, did you not understand all the procedure that I went through, sitting in this place, for enabling you to see the Brahman? It is, in short this. For seeing Brahman one has to give five things, i.e. surrender five things viz. (1) Five Pranas (vital forces), (2) Five senses (five of action and five of perception), (3) mind, (4) intellect and (5) ego. This path of Brahma-Jnana of self-realization is 'as hard as to tread on the edge of a razor'.
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Jewels of Wisdom - Sai baba of shirdi

Sai Baba then gave rather a long discourse on the subject, the purport of which is given below
Qualifications for Brahma-Jnana or Self-Realization
All persons do not see or realize the Brahman in their life-time. Certain qualifications are absolutely necessary. (1) Mumuksha or intense desire to get free. He, who thinks that he is bound and that he should get free from bondage and works earnestly and resolutely to that end;and who does not care for any other thinks, is qualified for the spiritual life. (2) Virakti or a feeling of disgust with the things of this world and the next. Unless a man feels disgusted with the things, emoluments and honors, which his action would bring in this world and the next, he has no right to enter into the spiritual realm. (3) Antarmukhata (introversion). Our senses have been created by God with a tendency to move outward and so, man always looks outside himself and not inside. He who wants self-realization and immortal life, must turn his gaze inwards, and look to his inner Self. (4) Catharsis from (Purging away of) sins. Unless a man has turned away from wickedness, and stopped from doing wrong, and has entirely composed himself and unless his mind is at rest, he cannot gain self-realization, even by means of knowledge. (5) Right Conduct. Unless, a man leads a life of truth, penance and insight, a life of celibacy, he cannot get God-realization. (6) Preferring Shreyas, (the Good) to Preyas (the Pleasant). There are two sorts of things viz., the Good and the Pleasant; the former deals with spiritual affairs, and the latter with mundane matters. Both these approach man for acceptance. He has to think and choose one of them. The wise man prefers the Good to the Pleasant; but the unwise, through greed and attachment, chooses the Pleasant. (7) Control of the mind and the senses. The body is the chariot and the Self is its master; intellect is the charioteer and the mind is the reins; the senses are the horses and sense-objects their paths. He who has no understanding and whose mind is unrestrained, his senses unmanageable like the vicious horses of a charioteer, does not reach his destination (get realization), but goes through the round of births and deaths; but he who has understanding and whose mind is restrained, his senses being under control, like the good horse of a charioteer, reaches that place, i.e., the state of self-realization, when he is not born again. The man, who has understanding as his charioteer (guide) and is able to rein his mind, reaches the end of the journey, which is the supreme abode of the all-pervading, Vishnu (lord). ( Purification of the mind. Unless a man discharges satisfactorily and disinterestedly the duties of his station in life, his mind will not be purified and, unless his mind is purified, he cannot get self-realization. It is only in the purified mind that Viveka (discrimination between the Unreal and the Real), and Vairagya (Non-attachment to the unreal) crop up and lead on the self-realization. Unless egoism is dropped, avarice got rid of, and the mind made desireless (pure), self-realization is not possible. The idea that 'I am the body' is a great delusion, and attachment to this idea is the cause of bondage. Leave off this idea and attachment therefore, if you want to get to the Self-realization. (9) The necessity of a Guru. The knowledge of the self is so subtle and mystic, that no one could, by his own individual effort ever hope to attain it. So the help of another person-Teacher, who has himself got self-realization is absolutely necessary. What others cannot give with great labour and pains, can be easily gained with the help of such a Teacher; for he has walked on the path himself and can easily take the disciple, step by step on the ladder of spiritual progress. (10) and lastly the Lord's Grace is the most essential thing. When the Lord is pleased with any body, He gives him Viveka and Vairagya; and takes him safe beyond the ocean of mundane existence, "The Self cannot be gained by the study of Vedas, nor by intellect, nor by much learning. He, whom the Self chooses, by him It is gained. To him the Self reveals Its nature", says the Katha Upanishad.
After the dissertation was over, Baba turned to the gentleman and said - "Well sir, there is in your pocket the Brahma (or Mammon) in the form of fifty-times five(Rs.250/-) rupees; please take that out." The gentleman took out from his pocket the bundle of currency notes, and to his great surprise found, on counting them, that there were 25 notes of 10 rupees each, Seeing this ominiscience of Baba, he was moved and fell at Baba's Feet and craved for His blessings. Then Baba said to him, "Roll up your bundle of Brahma viz. Currency notes. Unless you get rid completely of your avarice or greed, your will not get the real Brahma. How can be, whose mind is engrossed in wealth, progeny and prosperity, expect to know the Brahma, without removing away his attachment for the same? The illusion of attachment or the love for money is a deep eddy (whirlpool) of pain full of crocodiles in the form of conceit and jealousy. He, who is desireless, can alone cross this whirlpool. Greed and Brahma are as poles asunder, they are eternally opposed to each other. Where there is greed, there is no room for thought or meditation of the Brahma. Then how can a greedy man get dispassion and salvation? For a greedy man there is no peace, neither contentment, nor certainty (steadiness). If there be even a little trace of greed in mind, all the Sadhanas (spiritual endeavors) are of no avail. Even the knowledge of a well-read man, who is not free from the desire of the fruit or reward of his actions, and who has got no disgust for the same, is useless and can't help him in getting self-realization. The teachings of a Guru are of no use to a man, who is full of egoism, and who always thinks about the sense-objects. Purification of mind is absolutely necessary; without it, all our spiritual endeavors are nothing, but useless show and pomp. It is, therefore, better for one to take only what he can digest and assimilate. My treasury is full, and I can give anyone, what he wants, but I have to see whether he is qualified to receive what I give. If you listen to Me carefully, you will be certainly benefited. Sitting in this Masjid, I never speak any untruth."
When a guest is invited to a house, all the members of the household and other friends and relations that happen to be present, are entertained, along with the guest. So all those that were present in the Masjid at this time, could partake of the spiritual feast, that was served by Baba for the rich gentleman. After getting Baba's blessings, one and all, including the gentleman left the place quite happy and contented.
Special Characteristic of Baba
There are many Saints, who leaving their houses, stay in forest, caves or hermitages and remaining in solitude, try to get liberation or salvation for themselves. They do not care for other people, and are always self-absorbed. Sai Baba was not of such a type. He had no home, no wife, no progency, nor any relations, near or distant. Still, He lived in the world (society). He begged His bread from four or five houses, always lived at the foot of the (Neem) tree, carried on wordly dealings, and taught all the people how to act. and behave in this world. Rare are the Sadhus and Saints who, after attaining God-vision, strive for the welfare of the people. Sai Baba was the foremost of these and, therefore, says Hemadpant.
"Blessed is the country, blessed is the family, and blessed are the chaste parents where This extraordinary, transcendent, precious and pure jewel (Sai Baba) was born."

May we all understand these jewels of wisdom imparted by Sai Baba of shirdi during his lifetime at Shirdi, India to common masses makes us spiritually wise, we all are worldly wise.

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Fruits of karma and rebirth

Dear friends,
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My salutions to God, guru and all the realised souls.Sai baba of shirdi, this perfect master by incidents have shown to ignorant masses the fruits of actionOne more incident of his i am putting for your contemplation, this brahma gyani and his leelas is a spiritual feast:

Two Goats
Baba was once returning from Lendi, when He saw a flock of goats. Two of them attracted His attention. He went to them, caressed and fondled them and bought them for Rs.32/-. The devotees were surprised at this conduct of Baba. They thought that Baba was duped in this bargain, as the goats would fetch Rs.two each, at the most Rs.3/- or 4/- each, i.e., Rs.8/- for both. They began to take Baba to task for this, but Baba kept calm and cool. Shama and Tatya Kote asked Baba for an explanation. He said He should not store money as He had no home, and any family to look after. He asked them to purchase at His cost 4 seers of 'dal' (lentil) and feed the goats. After this was done, Baba returned the goats to the owner of the flock and gave out of the following reminiscences and story of the goats.
"Oh, Shama and Tatya, you think that I have been deceived in this bargain. No. Listen to their story. In their former birth they were human beings and had the good fortune to be My companions and sit by My side. They were uterine brothers, loving each other at first, but later on, they became enemies. The elder brother was an idle fellow while the younger one was an active chap and earned a lot of money. The former became greedy and jealous and wanted to kill his brother and take away his money. They forgot thier fraternal relations and began to quarrel with each other. The elder brother resorted to many devices to kill his younger brother, but all of his attempts failed. Thus they became deadly enemies and finally on one occasion the elder gave a deadly blow with a big stick on the latter's head while the latter struck the former with an axe, with the result that both fell dead on the spot. As the result of their actions, they were both born as goats. As they passed by me, I at once recognized them. I remembered their past history. Taking pity on them I wanted to feed them and give them rest and comfort and for this reason I spent all the money for which you reprove me. As you did not like My bargain I sent them back to their shepherd." Such was Sai's love for the goats!

The pefect masters like Swami nityananda, Lahiri mahashya, neem karoli baba, ramkrishna paramhanas, trailanga swami, Swami Samrath of akkalkot, sai baba, Pad vallabh and many more have explained to his devotees the karma and birth theory like this.How our actions affect us.Their lives are marvellous, awe inspiring and legends for followers of vedas and astanga yoga.So friends think about our actions .
This theory of karma and birth is intiguing we do not know what karma will lead to what birth .....

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Thank you Rashmi for sharing all these stories, I really love to read them. I especially like Sai Baba's explanation about qualification for Self-Realization. This way, even I never met Him, I can benefit of His wisdom.
For those of us who does not have fates good enough to meet such a Master, mumuksha (desire to get free) is often taught by pain and suffering.

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