Yoga for balancing Vata and Pitta

Dominik · 02-27-2008, 05:07 PM

Hello,

I was wondering what kind of yoga practice(s) would be best suited for balancing out elevated Vata and/or Pitta? Is there a specific series of postures and/or approach to practicing that balances out both of these doshas at the same time?

I don't have access to an Aryuvedic physician, but using different sets of questionnaires (books and online) I consistently come up as mixed Vata (primary) and Pitta (secondary). Pitta seems to dominate Vata only in the mental aspects of my constitution.

I suffer from moderate IBS-like symptoms (intestinal gas, bloating, relatively frequent/loose stools, and undigested food in stools) and some chronic joint/muscle pains (right body side only, even though my joints in general do a lot of clicking and popping). Thorough medical examinations haveexcluded serious health issues, even though there appears to be low level intestinal inflammation. Unfortunately I don't have access to an ayurvedic physician for proper diagnosis, but it seems these problems would mainly be due to elevated Vata (possibly also Pitta)?

I think I've got a pretty good idea about what changes I need to make in general lifestyle and nutrition, but how best to adjust my yoga practice? Currently I practice Iyengar yoga, 1x/week in class, about 2-3x/week at home.

Are there any specific series of postures and/or approach to practicing that balances out both Vata and Pitta at the same time? Or would anyone recommend a more specific approach towards only one of these doshas, given the above, and how so?

Many Thanks, Namaste!

**Nichole** · 02-27-2008, 06:07 PM

You may want to invest in Mukunda's new book, Ayurvedic Yoga Therapy, if you are interested in doing this work alone.

Kind wishes,

InnerAthlete · 02-28-2008, 12:24 AM

I find the Ayurvedic work to be more subtle. Not to question you specifically Dominik but it is not uncommon for human beings to get very wrapped up in these sorts of things - self-diagnosing this and that and actually using the practice to further deepen their own neurosis or dysfunction.

It is the same with anatomy. We get easily engaged in which muscle does this and which does that and which is the antagonist and which is the reciprocal inhibitor etcetera. The same is also true with things like Samadhi and meditation. We get so wrapped up in showing how evolved we are that we miss many of the main points of a mindful evolution.

There are some ways to engage the vatta-pitta-kapha student in a practice and Nichole has provided a path for pursuing that. I prefer to direct students to a teacher who is both skilled and well-trained. Many times a teacher that resonates with us is one that subtly meets our doshic nature without our conscious knowledge.

**Nichole** · 02-28-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnerAthlete

I prefer to direct students to a teacher who is both skilled and well-trained.

I need to be clear--Do you mean rather than direct them to a book?

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnerAthlete

Many times a teacher that resonates with us is one that subtly meets our doshic nature without our conscious knowledge.

I agree very much with this point and IA phrased it beautifully for us here--thank you.

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InnerAthlete · 02-28-2008, 01:09 PM

Generally speaking I do not like to direct students to books just as I do not like to direct them to DVD's. Of course there is a difference between the two mediums. And books do serve a purpose - I mean please do read, read, read.

I simply do not find the topics of Mudras, Chakras, Pranayama, and the intricacies of Ayurveda to be well-conveyed in the written form (without a significant dose of teacher to student interaction commonly called "contact hours").

But as we well know, there are some visitors that wil only practice with a TV, only learn from a book, can't or won't afford a teacher, can't or won't get to one yada yada yada. So I suppose we must serve them too.

But "yes", rather than direct them to a book, generally speaking.
In this case however it was exactly what the Op asked for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nichole

I need to be clear--Do you mean rather than direct them to a book?

Dominik · 03-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Thanks to you both for addressing my questions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnerAthlete

It is not uncommon for human beings to get very wrapped up in these sorts of things - self-diagnosing this and that and actually using the practice to further deepen their own neurosis or dysfunction.

I do actually get your point here InnerAthlete, and it's a good one. But how would you suggest for someone to avoid using their practice in such a way?

InnerAthlete · 03-05-2008, 07:51 PM

In two ways. The first is through the guidance of one's teacher (assuming a student commitment to change and growth).

The second is through the self-examination process or Svadhyaya. It is really to the student to explore. Without exploration I don't believe any Yoga is possible.

It is just another way of finding balance. I think back to the wisdom from my youth espoused by two chaps named Cheech & Chong.

"I used to be all messed up on drugs. Then I found the Lord. Now I'm all messed up on the Lord."
Don't get "all messed up" on anything

sqcloud · 03-06-2008, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnerAthlete

Generally speaking I do not like to direct students to books just as I do not like to direct them to DVD's. Of course there is a difference between the two mediums. And books do serve a purpose - I mean please do read, read, read.

I simply do not find the topics of Mudras, Chakras, Pranayama, and the intricacies of Ayurveda to be well-conveyed in the written form (without a significant dose of teacher to student interaction commonly called "contact hours").

But as we well know, there are some visitors that wil only practice with a TV, only learn from a book, can't or won't afford a teacher, can't or won't get to one yada yada yada. So I suppose we must serve them too.

But "yes", rather than direct them to a yoga book, generally speaking.
In this case however it was exactly what the Op asked for.

I hope you wouln't dislike me if I'm your student

Dominik · 03-06-2008, 01:11 PM

Thanks InnerAthlete! Definitely food for thought...

Mangala · 03-08-2008, 05:54 PM

Inflammation is excess pitta. Vata's home is in the colon, pitta's home is the intestines. Your condition is more important than your primary dosha. Mukunda's book that was suggested by Nicole has lifestyle recommendations, specific vinyasana to balance doshas, pranayama, spiritual practices, etc. You could also do a consult with Mukunda. I have been studying with him since 2001 and he is truely a gifted healer and has an amazing ability to read prana. You can contact him at Yogatherapycenter.org : : Welcome

Sounds like you are really ready to learn about classical yoga and what it has to offer. Once you get past the physical there is a whole other spiritual realm to yoga.

Good luck on your path.

Namaste, Mangala

02-27-2008, 06:07 PM	#2
Nichole SYT Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 797	You may want to invest in Mukunda's new book, Ayurvedic Yoga Therapy, if you are interested in doing this work alone. Kind wishes, __________________ Nichole Nurenberg-Miller Structural and Ayurvedic Yoga Therapist • RYT500 www.FiveKoshaYogaTherapy.com

02-28-2008, 12:24 AM	#3
InnerAthlete Mostly Good Egg Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Certified Purna Yoga Teacher - Seattle, WA Posts: 1,035	I find the Ayurvedic work to be more subtle. Not to question you specifically Dominik but it is not uncommon for human beings to get very wrapped up in these sorts of things - self-diagnosing this and that and actually using the practice to further deepen their own neurosis or dysfunction. It is the same with anatomy. We get easily engaged in which muscle does this and which does that and which is the antagonist and which is the reciprocal inhibitor etcetera. The same is also true with things like Samadhi and meditation. We get so wrapped up in showing how evolved we are that we miss many of the main points of a mindful evolution. There are some ways to engage the vatta-pitta-kapha student in a practice and Nichole has provided a path for pursuing that. I prefer to direct students to a teacher who is both skilled and well-trained. Many times a teacher that resonates with us is one that subtly meets our doshic nature without our conscious knowledge. __________________ ---- http://www.yogamojodojo.com http://www.teamyoga.com http://www.innerathlete.net/forum

03-05-2008, 07:51 PM	#7
InnerAthlete Mostly Good Egg Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Certified Purna Yoga Teacher - Seattle, WA Posts: 1,035	In two ways. The first is through the guidance of one's teacher (assuming a student commitment to change and growth). The second is through the self-examination process or Svadhyaya. It is really to the student to explore. Without exploration I don't believe any Yoga is possible. It is just another way of finding balance. I think back to the wisdom from my youth espoused by two chaps named Cheech & Chong. "I used to be all messed up on drugs. Then I found the Lord. Now I'm all messed up on the Lord." Don't get "all messed up" on anything __________________ ---- http://www.yogamojodojo.com http://www.teamyoga.com http://www.innerathlete.net/forum

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02-27-2008, 05:07 PM	#1
Dominik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South England Posts: 8	Hello, I was wondering what kind of yoga practice(s) would be best suited for balancing out elevated Vata and/or Pitta? Is there a specific series of postures and/or approach to practicing that balances out both of these doshas at the same time? I don't have access to an Aryuvedic physician, but using different sets of questionnaires (books and online) I consistently come up as mixed Vata (primary) and Pitta (secondary). Pitta seems to dominate Vata only in the mental aspects of my constitution. I suffer from moderate IBS-like symptoms (intestinal gas, bloating, relatively frequent/loose stools, and undigested food in stools) and some chronic joint/muscle pains (right body side only, even though my joints in general do a lot of clicking and popping). Thorough medical examinations haveexcluded serious health issues, even though there appears to be low level intestinal inflammation. Unfortunately I don't have access to an ayurvedic physician for proper diagnosis, but it seems these problems would mainly be due to elevated Vata (possibly also Pitta)? I think I've got a pretty good idea about what changes I need to make in general lifestyle and nutrition, but how best to adjust my yoga practice? Currently I practice Iyengar yoga, 1x/week in class, about 2-3x/week at home. Are there any specific series of postures and/or approach to practicing that balances out both Vata and Pitta at the same time? Or would anyone recommend a more specific approach towards only one of these doshas, given the above, and how so? Many Thanks, Namaste!

03-06-2008, 01:11 PM	#9
Dominik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South England Posts: 8	Thanks InnerAthlete! Definitely food for thought...

03-08-2008, 05:54 PM	#10
Mangala Teacher Trainer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 29	Inflammation is excess pitta. Vata's home is in the colon, pitta's home is the intestines. Your condition is more important than your primary dosha. Mukunda's book that was suggested by Nicole has lifestyle recommendations, specific vinyasana to balance doshas, pranayama, spiritual practices, etc. You could also do a consult with Mukunda. I have been studying with him since 2001 and he is truely a gifted healer and has an amazing ability to read prana. You can contact him at Yogatherapycenter.org : : Welcome Sounds like you are really ready to learn about classical yoga and what it has to offer. Once you get past the physical there is a whole other spiritual realm to yoga. Good luck on your path. Namaste, Mangala