a thought I have been pondering

justwannabe · 04-23-2007, 03:23 PM

If you switched places with god, what would you expect out of god.
If you were god would you expect to be worshiped all day every day. Would you expect people to not mess things ups? would you want people afraid of not living in perfection? Just a thought, if you were god what would you expect?
kind of fun to think about

**xela** · 04-23-2007, 04:00 PM

I would expect people to appreciate their lives and what they have instead of hurting one another. There's too much pain in this world.

InnerAthlete · 04-24-2007, 01:55 AM

One could not expect the human mind, the human consciousness (as we know it or rather do not know it today) to comprehend the divine consciousness. This is one of the larger issues with organized religion. Taking a divine experience and translating it with the tool known as the human mind.

Sri Aurobindo says it so well. God is not a thing or being "up there" in the Universe. He IS the Universe.

Hubert · 04-24-2007, 04:20 AM

A quote from The Apochryphon of John, (Nag Hammadi Codex II,1) - Note this is called gnosticism and ... heretic from most christian churches' point of view. I am not sure that they would disagree of this particular quotation, though.
I am just familiarizing myself with it, and I found lots of interesting things in it.

"The Monad is a monarchy with nothing above it. It is he who exists as God and Father of everything, the invisible One who is above everything, who exists as incorruption, which is in the pure light into which no eye can look.
He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him. For he does not exist in something inferior to him, since everything exists in him. For it is he who establishes himself. He is eternal, since he does not need anything. For he is total perfection. He did not lack anything, that he might be completed by it; rather he is always completely perfect in light. He is illimitable, since there is no one prior to him to set limits to him. He is unsearchable, since there exists no one prior to him to examine him. He is immeasurable, since there was no one prior to him to measure him. He is invisible, since no one saw him. He is eternal, since he exists eternally. He is ineffable, since no one was able to comprehend him to speak about him. He is unnameable, since there is no one prior to him to give him a name.
He is immeasurable light, which is pure, holy (and) immaculate. He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him. He is not someone among (other) beings, rather he is far superior. Not that he is (simply) superior, but his essence does not partake in the aeons nor in time. For he who partakes in an aeon was prepared beforehand. Time was not apportioned to him, since he does not receive anything from another, for it would be received on loan. For he who precedes someone does not lack, that he may receive from him. For rather, it is the latter that looks expectantly at him in his light.
How am I to speak with you about him? His aeon is indestructible, at rest and existing in silence, reposing (and) being prior to everything. For he is the head of all the aeons, and it is he who gives them strength in his goodness. For we know not the ineffable things, and we do not understand what is immeasurable, except for him who came forth from him, namely (from) the Father. For it is he who told it to us alone. For it is he who looks at himself in his light which surrounds him, namely the spring of the water of life. And it is he who gives to all the aeons and in every way, (and) who gazes upon his image which he sees in the spring of the Spirit. It is he who puts his desire in his water-light which is in the spring of the pure light-water which surrounds him. "

These are said by the Christ who showed Himself to John after His ascension to heaven.

The integral text can be found here.

jezheath · 04-24-2007, 04:52 AM

Surely the answer is already in how you behave right now.

Sorry - mis-read the question.... I thought you were asking what would you expect of mankind if you were god.

carmen · 04-24-2007, 06:23 AM

god/dess is within us. the moment we worship an external entity, then we give our power away.

the human being is hopelessly flawed, and to live in perfection is an unrealistic expectation. it is an ideal that religions put on upon their people in order to suppress them. for me, i think it's simply our intention that matters. yes, we will make mistakes and mess things up. but we learn and grow from this. to live as best we can is what's going to bring us closer to the divine within ourselves, and ultimately find peace and contentment.

04-23-2007, 03:23 PM	#1
justwannabe pañcashata Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 538	If you switched places with god, what would you expect out of god. If you were god would you expect to be worshiped all day every day. Would you expect people to not mess things ups? would you want people afraid of not living in perfection? Just a thought, if you were god what would you expect? kind of fun to think about __________________ I am light, I am love, I am peace, I am kindness, I am happiness, I am here, it is now. I am, and so are you

04-24-2007, 01:55 AM	#3
InnerAthlete Mostly Good Egg Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Certified Purna Yoga Teacher - Seattle, WA Posts: 1,022	One could not expect the human mind, the human consciousness (as we know it or rather do not know it today) to comprehend the divine consciousness. This is one of the larger issues with organized religion. Taking a divine experience and translating it with the tool known as the human mind. Sri Aurobindo says it so well. God is not a thing or being "up there" in the Universe. He IS the Universe. __________________ ---- http://www.yogamojodojo.com http://www.teamyoga.com http://www.innerathlete.net/forum

04-24-2007, 04:52 AM	#5
jezheath Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 13	Surely the answer is already in how you behave right now. Sorry - mis-read the question.... I thought you were asking what would you expect of mankind if you were god. __________________ Want to practice yoga but can't make it to class? Learn yoga online wherever and whenever you want with a library of expert yoga online video instruction with http://www.totalyogapractice.com Last edited by jezheath; 04-24-2007 at 04:58 AM. Reason: first answer was gibberish

04-23-2007, 04:00 PM	#2
xela Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 342	I would expect people to appreciate their lives and what they have instead of hurting one another. There's too much pain in this world.

04-24-2007, 04:20 AM	#4
Hubert saptashata Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 740	A quote from The Apochryphon of John, (Nag Hammadi Codex II,1) - Note this is called gnosticism and ... heretic from most christian churches' point of view. I am not sure that they would disagree of this particular quotation, though. I am just familiarizing myself with it, and I found lots of interesting things in it. "The Monad is a monarchy with nothing above it. It is he who exists as God and Father of everything, the invisible One who is above everything, who exists as incorruption, which is in the pure light into which no eye can look. He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him. For he does not exist in something inferior to him, since everything exists in him. For it is he who establishes himself. He is eternal, since he does not need anything. For he is total perfection. He did not lack anything, that he might be completed by it; rather he is always completely perfect in light. He is illimitable, since there is no one prior to him to set limits to him. He is unsearchable, since there exists no one prior to him to examine him. He is immeasurable, since there was no one prior to him to measure him. He is invisible, since no one saw him. He is eternal, since he exists eternally. He is ineffable, since no one was able to comprehend him to speak about him. He is unnameable, since there is no one prior to him to give him a name. He is immeasurable light, which is pure, holy (and) immaculate. He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him. He is not someone among (other) beings, rather he is far superior. Not that he is (simply) superior, but his essence does not partake in the aeons nor in time. For he who partakes in an aeon was prepared beforehand. Time was not apportioned to him, since he does not receive anything from another, for it would be received on loan. For he who precedes someone does not lack, that he may receive from him. For rather, it is the latter that looks expectantly at him in his light. How am I to speak with you about him? His aeon is indestructible, at rest and existing in silence, reposing (and) being prior to everything. For he is the head of all the aeons, and it is he who gives them strength in his goodness. For we know not the ineffable things, and we do not understand what is immeasurable, except for him who came forth from him, namely (from) the Father. For it is he who told it to us alone. For it is he who looks at himself in his light which surrounds him, namely the spring of the water of life. And it is he who gives to all the aeons and in every way, (and) who gazes upon his image which he sees in the spring of the Spirit. It is he who puts his desire in his water-light which is in the spring of the pure light-water which surrounds him. " These are said by the Christ who showed Himself to John after His ascension to heaven. The integral text can be found here.

04-24-2007, 06:23 AM	#6
carmen Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 11	god/dess is within us. the moment we worship an external entity, then we give our power away. the human being is hopelessly flawed, and to live in perfection is an unrealistic expectation. it is an ideal that religions put on upon their people in order to suppress them. for me, i think it's simply our intention that matters. yes, we will make mistakes and mess things up. but we learn and grow from this. to live as best we can is what's going to bring us closer to the divine within ourselves, and ultimately find peace and contentment.