why?

[justwannabe]

why do I say I am peace, I am love, I am joy at the end of my postings now? we can choose to focus on whatever aspects of ourselves we want to, free will? for a lot of my life I focused on shortcomings and what I focues on that is what I expoanded in. in the universe and in our bodies most of the time we expand or contract, not many things stay idle. The heart expands and contracts it's whole life. So not I am choosing to expand in love and contract in negativity. but these are empty words when just the word is said in my opinion.

For each word I have a mental picture. when I say I am peace, the mental picture that comes to mind was a day where I had given a homeless kitty some food while waiting at the bus stop in costa rica, It can still picture it licking its paw and using it to wipe its face. co cute that cat was, a peaceful moment. at that moment I was peace
when I asay I am joy, I remember the day where I went to the park and was upset. I sat under a tree and then went for a walk by the lake with my shoes off. after I left I was pumping gas and I felt joyous, for no reason at all. Joyous just pumping gas, joyous just to be alive. at that moment I was joy
when I say I am love I picture myself holding a friends hand and having tears come down my eyes because of her struggles, I felt love for her and wanted the best for her and I just sat with her in her time of need. at that moment I was love

I say my prayers at least twice a day and sometimes I use many more words then this, all with a mental picture, today I probably used twenty words, all things I wish to expand it. My prayers do not fous on what I was but rather focus on what I am expanding in. when you expand in love/light, the darkness falls away with no effort to eliminate darkness.

every one who reads this is what I am, it is yours if you claim it.
as a great being once said "the kingdom of god lies within you" I am greatful for the teachings of many for they have helped me to realize, I have the power
we are peace, we are love, we are joy
I am neil

[elyk]

beautiful.

[louise molenkamp]

very good to cultivate positive things like that.
Thank you, you light, love, peace, kindness and happiness you are
yes and so am i
and grateful as well i am
because someone like you took care of the cat

[Albert]

Originally Posted by justwannabe

a great being once said "the kingdom of god lies within you"

That's nice.....that great being was Jesus.

[justwannabe]

Originally Posted by Albert

That's nice.....that great being was Jesus.

I asked a lady at work this week where the kingdom of God was and that very night at bible study it was part of their study, along with the line of "there are those who see but do not see, there are those who here but do not here....." Kind of neat how those things work sometime, the next day she came running to me and she was like "you will never beleive it, but that quote we talked about yesterday was what we studied in bible class" It was cool to see the joy/excitement on her face

Louis and Elyk, thanks for the kind words I am glad you enjoyed reading it. I hope the kitty is doing well, if anyone is at the downtown bus station in san jose costa rica and sees a cat about 6 months old and is gray and white, buy it a piece of chicken and send me the bill
I am love, I am peace, I am joy, I am thankful to the teachers and I am thankful to the One
I am Neil

[Albert]

Originally Posted by justwannabe

I asked a lady at work this week where the kingdom of God was

That is an expression that probably can't be put into simple english. It probably describes God's ruling over the 'world' now and for eternity. When the world ends, God's Kingdom with then be in Heaven.

[justwannabe]

read luke 17, he talks about it there

I am love, I am light, I am peace, I breath free, I thank the teachers and I am from the same one as you
I am neil

[Albert]

thanks......

[Hubert]

Originally Posted by Albert

That is an expression that probably can't be put into simple english. It probably describes God's ruling over the 'world' now and for eternity. When the world ends, God's Kingdom with then be in Heaven.

I think there is much more to it, than we would think and would ever imagine. It would be sad if with our minds and comprehension, as they are now, we could picture God and the kingdom of heaven, don't you think ?

Sometimes we are not able to remember a small thing, or we fail to see someone suffering next to us, yet we claim the right to tell what is right and what is wrong ...
I learn a lot from my baby girl, almost two years old now. She is joy, fullness, light and life itself. How is that that we become so heavy, dark, rigid and limited ?

PS. On kingdom of heaven, I learnt that it is the spiritual world. We came down from there, and we go up there again. To see the Kingdom of God is to have our spiritual sight set on the realities of the spiritual world, become it's inhabitants, as we are inhabitants of this physical world through our physical senses. When Jesus says: those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, he talks about our spiritual eyes. As yogis we know one such eye, the third eye, ajna chakra. But all other chakras are spiritual organs, and the dormant petals bear dormant faculties, clairvoyance, and other "powers'. Their development depends much on our karma, their state, our practice ... that's why there is a great diversity of talents among people. An inhabitant of The Kingdom of God is an enlighetened person, one who is able to be a witness of the suprasensorial realities, the spiritual world, what is the origin of the physical one. Than one becomes "immortal" not in the physical sense, but one's consciousness will not be dimmed without the aid of the physical body as it happens with unenlighetened people. When one sees one's existence beyond the gates of birth and death, experinces the existence of one's individuality on a higher scale. From an earthy point of view, this is immortality. In reality, it isn't as one is only able to see back in time and into the future of one's journey in function of how developed the higher bodies (manas, buddhi, atman) are. The final step, identifying ourselves with nothing but Brahman, is incomprehensible, it must be realized.

[Albert]

Originally Posted by Hubert

ess of the suprasensorial realities, the spiritual world, what is the origin of the physical one. Than one becomes "immortal" not in the physical sense, but one's consci

I didn't have the energy to try and comprehend what you said. It's best to keep these things simple and when I find a simple explanation of what God's Kingdom is....then I'll let you know.
But my above explanation in my previous post was pretty good. I kept it simple to understand.

[justwannabe]

Dear brother hubert, it is my opinion that we only learn when we experiece, untill we experience, it is only theory. You speak many many words, let it go brothr, let go of the "knowledge" pick up your child, look into her eyes, and when a thought arises "I am holding atman and looking through her gate to heaven where the soul lies........" let it go. when we hold onto knowledge we cannot let go. Let go of knowledge and we may experience what is.
with love brother
I am love, I am joy, I am peace, I breathe free, I am thankful to the teachers, I am of the one, the same one as you
I am neil

[Pandara]

Originally Posted by justwannabe

"I am holding atman and looking through her gate to heaven where the soul lies........"

Beautifully said Neil, see the essence, look beyond the form and outer garment and see Atman, the I AM THAT I AM.

[Hubert]

Originally Posted by Albert

I didn't have the energy to try and comprehend what you said. It's best to keep these things simple and when I find a simple explanation of what God's Kingdom is....then I'll let you know.
But my above explanation in my previous post was pretty good. I kept it simple to understand.

Probably my english and the thoughts what are not familiar.
Most people including myself can only think in the parameters of some thought system. An unfamiliar thought system is simply incomprehensible to one not acquainted to it's bases.

So, again. Kingdom of Heaven is here, now. It is in us, around us, not somewhere in the future, above the clouds, as a reward, or an elitist place for the righteous. We do not expereince it. That's why it can be said, we are "outside" of it. When we start to expereince it with a waking consciousness, than we become it's denizens. Because that "place" is not physical, it is not even a place, we can't really picture it. How can a man born blind expereince a sunrise ? This is what I tried to say. Forgive me but english is my ... third language, I picked it up from reading, some scholling, movies and electronic entertainment.

[Hubert]

Originally Posted by justwannabe

Dear brother hubert, it is my opinion that we only learn when we experiece, untill we experience, it is only theory. You speak many many words, let it go brothr, let go of the "knowledge" pick up your child, look into her eyes, and when a thought arises "I am holding atman and looking through her gate to heaven where the soul lies........" let it go. when we hold onto knowledge we cannot let go. Let go of knowledge and we may experience what is.
with love brother
I am love, I am joy, I am peace, I breathe free, I am thankful to the teachers, I am of the one, the same one as you
I am neil

I hope my words bother some people enough to be honest with themselves, and seek further.

By the way, I agree about what you say about personal expereince being the only real thing. But thinking is also a personal expereince. Just as there is great difference between a right diet, and a bad one, there is a great difference between right thinking and wrong thinking. Why is that you acknowledge the importance of the first, but discard the latter ? Spiritual nourishment is just as important as the physical. Just some food for thought ...
As good food gives me strenght to carry on with my physical organism, good thoughts help me carry on with my mental one.

If lucky, you are having the first suprasensorial expereinces. Compared to them what I say, are useless, yes. But there are many for whom it may make a difference. It is easier to deal with a tamed mind.

[louise molenkamp]

Namaste,

when we find Gods Kingdom inside there will be no mistake about it.
If you can see, who is asking where his eyes are?
(quoting Ramana Maharshi in my own words)

I think we do not have to search for God s kingdom outside.
when you go from A to B , you want to reach B because you think you are not there yet. There is nothing but God
When we know we are there already, where can we go?
Louise

[Hubert]

It is neither inside or outside (that's why I used quote marks). It IS.
The expereince of space exists only in the physical realm. There are no things inside, outside, below, high there, but there are still various things, and depending how they are related to us, we percieve them as "above us", below us, not in the physical sense, but in the sense of when we feel an action really is "below" our standards.

The Kingdom of Hevaen is a psychic reality. That's why no matter how far one goes in the univers, one will not find the throne of God standing there. I can think of an infinite corner of physical space in an instant. Consciusness is not space limited.

Explanation for Neil, but not only.

You must know me to understand me. I have been from an early age very interested in science. My mother used had subscription to this monthly magazine, called Life and Science. I have been reading them. Did I say I was an avid reader from an early age ? So, based on this, and my schooling, axed on mathematics and physics, I became what you would call a a well versed student of science, and my profession is one what is built on this. Yet, I was not that brilliant. I was good but not really interested, or involved. I found myself slowly, only in college, when studiing architecture, I found a way to express myself. Being good at it, it gave quite a boost to my self esteem. After being average in school, I became one of the bests in college. It was then, after '89 when the iron curtain fell off, and information begun to flow to our country. Until than, all things what weer scientific were allowed to study, but human sciences, religion, history, literature were only tolerated, and supressed. Free thinking was supressed in the communist regime. The communist party told people how to think. Of course people complied only aparently, yet there was a great lack of information, and the new age movement what might have had it's small influences in the bigger cities, toatally missed my area.

No wonder that I was a great adept of science, and whatever scientific knowledge is there in my mind, was based on my studies and interestof that period. I grew totally outside the influnce of the catholic faith. I thought it is silly. I never read the Bible but I knew where it was wrong from places what were criticizing it. I felt natural aversion towards that open joy, or demanding sentimentalism what is part of organized christian tradition. It just smelt wrong something you would not touch with a pole.

I had debates with my roommate, who is an active member of catholic faith. I could show him how everything what he beleieves in is incomprehensible at best, and downright wrong at worst. He never won the arguments, until I cornered him, and asked him why is there in him this stubborn clinging to beleiving in the existence of God. The answer was: because I expereinced it. And he only said that I could not imagine the love. And there was really nothing I could say to that. I did not know what to make of it. I knew him as an honest man, so I had to accept that he expereinced something I never did.

I talk about the years between 20-22 of my life. I met a person who introduced me to yoga. With that and another person I expereinced telephaty. It was involuntary, and produced quite a shock for me. It was an experence unfitting in everything I knew, or thought I knew. Since than I have been struggling to make a life for me, while reading, searching, practicing yoga, even though I quit asana practice. It was not the time. I had to create the circumstances. This was not conscious, mind you, but when I look back, I know I have been guided by some higher wisdom. Some call it God, but I know God has more important things to do than to guide the steps of every newcomer.

Outer life, job, projects, prsonal life took over. I had to pass through a few crysis so I am brought back on path. What I learnt is that no philospohy, religion, no outer form of help can help me in times of trouble. Nothing. I had run for cover to all the possible places. There is no place to hide of fate, though. What is important, that finally I arrived to a thought system, books, opus of a man, what radically cahnged my view on life. That man was Rudolf Steiner. I bought his book, Occult science out of my waking interest towards peculiar things, and found in it a book, what not just states some aberrations, unfounded exclamations on unexpereincable, uncheckable facts, but a book what invites the reader to think with the author. A hard reading. Steiner is incredibly hard to read, because while he guides you, he requires to follow him closely. An austrian, his thinking is precise, and the reader faces the same diffculty what Albert faced here. You can't just read it, missing pages, reading into the later chapters, to find something inetersting. It is guided meditation. I am a fast reader but that book was just a pain. I felt depleted after a few pages. Eventually I managed to get through it. (It was in romanian, second language to me, and as I found later on, not a very good translation). After that I bought all the books I could. They are scarce, as even those interested (not many) have the same diffculties in reading it. Another book of his was the Apocalypse of John, and my scientific mind marveled how the cosmogony of Occult Sceince makes the Revelations of John make sense. The Revelations has been called the ramblings of a madman by Thomas Jefferson ... but in Steiners explanation it makes perfect sense. That made me finally accept christianity. Not it's organized form, as I still have some difficulties in accepting a lot of things going on there, but the main pillar it is built on, the figure of Christ. Not of Jesus, mind you, but Christ as Cosmic Ego, Self, Word. It is amazing how the New Covenant comes alive through the study of the anthroposophy of Steiner.

This is why I believe in morality, faith in the unseen spiritual world (Kingdom of Heaven), and reality of karma, and reincarnation. I came to accept it as scientific truth, through search, work, and comprehension, through understanding it mentally. It is not blind faith but faith lit through the light of reason. It all makes perfect sense, and it worths the study. It brings the forces of the soul alive, strong, and transfroms ones life completely. Yes, there are temptations, all the way. To get back into ignorance. To escape into a love high through various methods. I became to appreciate the middle ... a cool head sitting on some strong, working shoulders, a warm heart covered by a clam breath, and a strong will to face whatever life brings tp me. I cannot just sit, and be happy. Not when there is a great deal to improve. I have been doing this all my life, improving myself. For me it is uselss if someone says, the Self cannot be improved. I am not the Self, but I need to grow to recieve this Self more and more. Or become less and less. Depends on persepctive.
Important is that I know with my mind now, that this is the only way. So whatever temptation comes, even if it wins the battle as I am only human, I get up, and fight some more, I will not lose the war. Because it is war, with myself, me being my greatest enemy.
Those who do not hate their own soul, will not get into the Kingdom of God, the Christ said. For some it is just bad transalation, or some distorted thoughts of a great teacher. For me it is living truth. When one really starts to know himself, there are a lot of despicable things there.
Without the light of Christ (Self, Love, Life, Neil ) I could never forgive my own wretchedness. It is there ... we all run from it, and hide, but one day we all face what we are, instead of what we could have become, and it is not a pleasant sight. But do not worry, if it does not happen today. Karma is unique and it is guided with greater wisdom than ours.

[justwannabe]

well brother hubert, you seem to have found more peace within, I am thankful that you have. Yeah, I probably would have to know you to understand you, but even thebn I dont know that I would understand you I dont always understand me, or maybe I should say I rarely understand me, I dont know Talking about the christ consciousness, seems we have been hearing that from many different angles lately and some say it is soon to come. We live in some interesting times for sure. Hating my own soul, well if God is love then why would I hate anything, does not make sense to me so that is why certain things I read I do not care for, but to each their own. One of my points is that when we hold onto "knowledge" or teachings we may not learn for ourselves.
just thoughts or more than thoughts, I dont know
I am love, I am peace, I am allowing myself to expand into the breath, into the universe, into experience
I am neil

[J. Mukti]

Namaste Dear Hearts,

When a personality asks themselves "WHY" in the sense that YOU put the question, it IS a BEAUTIFUL COMMENCEMENT OF A INNER JOURNEY!!! It is a sighn that the animal nature IS grown out of and the nature of becoming LIBERATED has started.

Namste to ALL,
mukti