[QUOTE=core789;55477]That is why they say an authentic guru will only point the finger to[B] inner guru[/B] residing within us all.[/QUOTE] One of the main targets in SY is to become guru.
Pear Martini,
For properly understanding what it is, some tantric cosmology background is mandatory, as K rising is nothing but the reversal of the creation but in a microcosmic (person) level.
Learn what the evolution of the tattvas is, what nadis and chakras are, and you will understand what K rising is.
Namaskar
“One of the main targets in SY is to become guru.”
As asleep as it’s founder is, such a thing would be tremendously dangerous.
[QUOTE=Seeker33;55621]One of the main targets in SY is to become guru.[/QUOTE]
not guru. its Self Guru.
Christ Jesus was waiting at a well in Samaria, while his disciples went to the city to buy some food, when a Samaritan woman came along and drew some water from the well. Christ asked her for a drink, whereupon she was very surprised, because Jews did not normally have anything to do with the Samaritans. Then Christ told her about the “Living Water”. He said to her:
“Whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him, shall never thirst, but the water that I shall give him, shall become in him a well of water, springing up to eternal life!” (Christ Jesus - John 4:13b-14)
[The “Living Water” that Christ was talking about was what the Hindus call “Kundalini”, which means, “coiled energy”. Kundalini energy is what Christians call “the power of the Holy Ghost”. This power of the Holy Ghost is located in the Sacrum Bone. The Greeks called it “sacrum” meaning “sacred”. They obviously knew the secret knowledge of our inner being, which has been the sacrum’s sacred secret! Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has been revealing this secret knowledge of our inner being for the last 30 years or so, and this is what She said regarding the power of the Holy Ghost]:
“Now I would like to tell [you], the secret knowledge of our inner being, which was known in India thousands of years ago. For our evolution and spiritual ascent, there is a residual power within us, which is located in the triangular bone [“the sacrum”] at the base of our spine. This residual power was available thousands of years ago in India. The awakening of the Kundalini was traditionally done on an individual basis only. One guru would give awakening to one disciple. As a result of that awakening, what happens is that you achieve your Self Realisation, your Selfhood. Secondly, when this power is awakened, it rises and passes through six subtle energy centres in your body, nourishing them and integrating them. Ultimately the power breaks through the fontanelle bone area, called Talu or Divine love, which is described in the Bible also as the “cool breeze [Wind] of the Holy Ghost”. In the Koran, it is also known as “Ruh” and in the Indian scriptures, [it is known as] “Paramchaitanya”. Patanjali has called it “Ritambhara Pragya”. Whatever the name, this is a power, which is all pervading, which does all the subtle work of the living process, of the evolutionary process. The existence of this all-pervading energy is not felt before Realisation… but after Self Realisation; you can feel it on your fingertips or at the centre of your palm, or above the fontanelle bone area.”
[The “living water” (a.k.a. Kundalini) has the ability to thoroughly wash away a person’s sin, error or negativity (whichever you prefer to call it). Sin, error, or negativity is anything that separates a person from the Divine, from God. In Christianity, it is said that “one’s garments are washed whiter than snow”, implying that these are “inner” and not outer garments. The Psalmist sang about the power of God, to wash his inner garments from all sin, error, or negativity, making them “whiter than snow”. It is obvious that the Psalmist was referring to the energy centres or chakras, that are part and parcel of every human being’s psychosomatic (mind/body) system. Here is the Psalmist’s Song]:
“Be gracious to me, O God, according to Thy loving-kindness; according to the greatness of Thy compassion, blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.” (Psalm 51:2) “Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.” (Psalm 51:7b)
The kundalini energy, power of the Holy Spirit, washes a person’s sin, error, or negativity, whiter than snow and connects him to the Kingdom of God within. "The nucleus inside every atom or molecule has the Spirit of that [atom or] molecule. If you become your Spirit, we can say that the brain of the atom or molecule is the body of the nucleus, but the one who controls that nucleus, is the Spirit that resides within the nucleus. So now you have got the attention of the whole body of the atom [or molecule] and inside the nucleus is the Spirit. In the same way, we have this body, the attention of the body, and then we have the nucleus that is the brain, [but then] the Spirit that is in the heart, controls the brain.
Now the Spirit is watching through this aura; ‘watching’. I am again saying ‘watching’ through this aura. This aura is watching the behaviour of your seven centres in your brain. It is also watching all the nerves that are working the brain. ‘Watching’; again. But when you bring the Spirit into your brain, then you go two steps ahead. Because when your Kundalini rises, She touches the Sadashiva, and Sadashiva informs the Spirit. Informs in the sense of Sadashiva reflecting, in the Spirit. So that’s the first state, where the watching auras start communicating to your different chakras in the brain, and integrating it.
But when you bring your “Spirit” to your brain, this is the second state. Then you really become Self Realised in the full way. In the full way! Because then your Self, that is the “Spirit”, becomes your brain. Action then becomes very dynamic, as the 5th dimension is then opened within the human being.
When you first become realised, collectively conscious, and start raising the Kundalini, you cross the 4th dimension. But when your Spirit comes into your brain, then you become the 5th dimension. This means you become the Doer. For example, our brain says “Alright, lift this thing up”. So you touch it with your hand; you lift it up. You are the doer. But when the Spirit becomes the brain, the “Spirit” is the doer.
And when the Spirit is the Doer, then you become a complete Shiva; Self Realised. In that state, if you get angry, you are not attached. You are not an attached person to `anything’ whatsoever. If you possess anything, you are not attached! You cannot attach, because the Spirit “is detachment”; complete detachment. You don’t bother about any attachments, whatsoever. Even for a second, you are not attached.
Shri Mataji has described how this “living water” that is Kundalini, is raised to a tremendous level, and clears and cleanses our subtle energy centres from all sin/error/negativity. The inner person becomes purified, so he can have his connection to the Kingdom of God, however once he has his connection, he must endeavour to maintain a spiritual state of consciousness, before God, through the power of the Holy Spirit that has arisen within him. Shri Mataji also talked about bringing the Spirit into the brain, which spiritually transforms a person. Here Shri Mataji gives more knowledge about the Kundalini, which is the power of the Holy Spirit reflected in us]:
"One or two strands out of this [arising Kundalini] come up and pierce the fontanel bone area. Kundalini [literally meaning “coiled energy”] is a spiral, which has to pass through the innermost Nadi known as Brahma Nadi [a.k.a. Sushumna Nadi], which is also a spiral. The outermost Nadi [Pingala Nadi] is the right side and the second innermost Nadi is the Ida Nadi. When the Kundalini passes through the Brahmi Nadi, the sympathetic nervous system starts relaxing, and when it goes to the Agnya Chakra [“the Narrow Gate” that Christ talked about], then the eyes start relaxing, and the pupils dilate, becoming very black. This is a way to easily see how far the Kundalini has risen in the person.
The Kundalini energy is absolutely the pure light of knowledge, love, compassion and attention. It is the living energy, which knows how to handle Itself and think. It is like the tip of a sprouting seed that knows how to go around all the soft places, to encircle the stones, and then find its way to the source. But within you is a tremendous force of Kundalini – a storehouse of love, compassion, knowledge, and an ocean of forgiveness, which can be enlightened by the Spirit. When people get Realisation, they do not understand that they now have to “grow”, and the reason they do not grow, is that they do not ask for these energies, in order to be more compassionate, more loving, more generous, and not to exploit others. But if you do not want to be growing in our awareness, then She (the Kundalini Mother) says: “All right. He’s a half-baked Sahaja Yogi. Let it be.” And She doesn’t supply that energy which is stored within you. Mundane desires such as asking for a job or cures for relatives are impure, because they are not satiable [not able to satisfy fully].
This Kundalini that is your Mother, She is there to supply you, nourish you, look after you and make you grow by giving you a higher, wider, and deeper personality. But our ideas about people who [we think] have higher personalities are wrong. People are higher, because they are spiritually evolved; otherwise they are not [higher]."
“Kundalini is pure desire, which means that it has no lust or greed. It is the power of your own [Spiritual] Mother, who knows everything about you, like a tape recorder. Whatever chakras (energy centres) She touches, She also knows what’s wrong with that chakra beforehand. So She’s quite prepared and adjusts Herself fully, so that you do not get a problem by Her awakening. If any chakra is constricted, She waits and goes on, slowly opening that chakra.”
“When the Kundalini rises, she pierces through the fontanelle bone area, and connects us to this all pervading power of Divine Love, which is doing all the living work, for which we do not need to pay. We are not obliged and we do not even think about it. Thus, this vital power starts flowing within our being and all our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual problems are solved, as our genes are put in order.”
“So to [blame] your genes for your mistakes, is not going to work out anymore, because these genes can be changed in their database, and can be brought to the level of a very righteous, angelic personality. The ego and the conditioning of a person gets dissolved by the ascent of the Kundalini, and he really becomes a free bird! Absolute freedom is achieved “in reality” and his behaviour changes tremendously, with great faith in himself! He becomes a witness of the whole drama of life.”
as I said - those who speak on such things - don’t know
and those who [I]do[/I] know won’t tell you - unless of course it is fitting for you to know.
If it would be fitting for you to know of such things - you wouldn’t find the knowledge on the internet - thats for sure.
“as I said - those who speak on such things - don’t know”
There are those who do not speak and still don’t know. Knowing or not knowing is not a matter of speaking or not speaking.
“If it would be fitting for you to know of such things - you wouldn’t find the knowledge on the internet - thats for sure”
A master is capable of transmitting the matter even through the internet.
[QUOTE=AmirMourad;55707]“as I said - those who speak on such things - don’t know”
There are those who do not speak and still don’t know. Knowing or not knowing is not a matter of speaking or not speaking.
“If it would be fitting for you to know of such things - you wouldn’t find the knowledge on the internet - thats for sure”
A master is capable of transmitting the matter even through the internet.[/QUOTE]
yes amir your explanations are incorrect. Because if you knew, really knew, then you wouldn’t say - especially out here on the wide open internet.
Whether or not the master is capable of transmitting the matter even though the internet is of no consequence what so ever. Whether you find true knowledge there is another matter altogether.
Kundalini is simply potential energy. That is indeed what the word kundalini means, “coiled up”. Your current body cannot sustain all the energy your body potentially can channel, because of the energy circuits in your body are not developed enough to allow a free flow of energy. If you try to force energy in your body you will shortcircuit your energy circuits, this is called a premature Kundalini awakening and is the cause of phenomenon like spontaneous human combustion. When you naturally develop the energy circuits in your body, your body will naturally start to channel more energy. This is called a kundalini awakening. Literally, the release of potential energy.
You should never try to force a kundalini awakening. Let it happen naturally.
Gopi Krishna got it one fine morning and we know the rest.
Kundalini awakens with only Pure Desire. We should Have the Desire, otherwise it will just coil in peace.
much confusion there is . . .
Kundalini is process of connecting two different types of energy, a process of completing two halves. The chinese call it yin and yang…indian traditions have various names for it…purusha-prakriti, shiva-shakti. The coupling of these two is to create balance and harmony, first in the microcosm then in the macrocosm.
Kundalini awakening makes the energetic body complete which in turn helps enter into the “real” process of merging with the infinite unknowable.
[QUOTE=Dwai;55807]The chinese call it yin and yang…indian traditions have various names for it…purusha-prakriti, shiva-shakti. [/QUOTE] Yin and yang are Ida and Pingala nadi and Parkriti as well. Pirusha is Atma in the heart.
[B]just do it[/B] - reEbok 
empty ur mind. pure conscious will fill it with divinity.
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[QUOTE=Seeker33;55794]
Originally Posted by Surya Deva
You should never try to force a kundalini awakening. Let it happen naturally
Yes, with Sahaja yoga. [/QUOTE]
There were something said by one poster called Nobody, that awakening K is like a bud that opens into a flower come May. It needs watered and fed and patience but this cannot be forced.Otheriwse ill-result may occur.
Alllowing...letting it happen naturally is sage advice.
[QUOTE=core789;55820]There were something said by one poster called Nobody, that awakening K is like a bud that opens into a flower come May. It needs watered and fed and patience but this cannot be forced.Otheriwse ill-result may occur.
Alllowing…letting it happen naturally is sage advice.[/QUOTE]GOD has no desire. [B]We must desire our Kundalini awakening and this will happen when we are ready. [/B]
Kundalini is yogis Eldorado
[QUOTE=lascar;56097]Kundalini is yogis Eldorado[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by eldorado?